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Old 10-06-2016, 02:56 PM   #31
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Wentz is the top graded qb so far. Jordan Matthews is their highest rated WR at 70.3, good enough for 45th in the league....in other words their receivers suck.

Their Oline...lane Johnson been really gud tackle 3rd in league, thanks to using steroids. Their guards are rated high...7'and 16 In The league...probably the highest rated tandem. Peters isn't good and their center effing blows.

Brent celek their starting TE is rated 10th in league...really high in run blocking.

So solid rating, hence quick start.
Ahh, thanks. I wondered if a lot of their success was because of their offensive line like Dallas. Also, was Wentz top graded QB period in the NFL?!
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Ahh, thanks. I wondered if a lot of their success was because of their offensive line like Dallas. Also, was Wentz top graded QB period in the NFL?!
They had him #1 rated...crazy. But Ive watched him once and came away impressed.

Dak Prescott is not even in the conversation, Its not close, Wentz is a far superior QB so far this season.
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Me too, but no way that lasts. No one just comes in and dominates the league for an entire season as a rookie. He'll even out.
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Re: In Season Redskins Roster Grades

Cooley's Grades for the offense against Baltimore from his film breakdown on 980:

10 Hall of Fame
9 All Pro
8.5 Pro Bowl
8.0 Really Good NFL Starter
7.0 Average NFL Starter (everybody starts here)
6.0 Back Up
Less than 6 looking for a job.
His grading scale seems to be tweaked from week 1 with the distinction between All Pro and Pro Bowl.

Cousins 6.9

Jones 5.4
Thompson 8.0

Djax 8.5
Garcon 9.0
Crowder 8.3

Reed 7
Davis 7

Trent 9.4
Lavau 6.6
Long 7.2
Scherff 7.3
Moses 8.0

Jones is the glaring weakness according to Cooley from the game. He has been predicting all week that Kelly will see a lot more snaps against Philly.

He docked Kirk for leaving a lot of yards on the field for choosing the wrong receiver and of course the interception but was also inaccurate on several balls. He didn't kill him though.

The most interesting criticism was on Scherff. Says he is at his worst when he has to loose on screens. Is really good on most everything else.
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Matt Jones was the top rated RB last week and currently for the year is rated 3rd best RB in the league.
Chris Thompson has been outstanding the last couple weeks and is rated 33 RB.

Desean, Garcon and Crowder are 27, 51st and 57th. Jordan Reed is rated the 8th best TE and surprisingly his run blocking grade has been really good this year. Vernon Davis is a respectable 23red highest rated TE.

Schreff is the 9th rated Guard. They rated Arie Kujo fairly poor in his first start, especially with his Run blocking.

Tackles are a strong unit...Silverback rated 2nd in the league and Moses has turned it up the last couple games and is now 12th best Tackle in the league. Ive seen it too, guy has quietly dominated.

Norman is the 11th best CB...which is down but still an extremely solid grade. Quinton Dunbar has been graded really well the last couple weeks and in limited action is graded out as the 25th highest rated CB.

Wil Blackmon has been steady at Safety replacing D Hall. D Bruton continues to disappoint with one of the lowest grade in run defense...he isn't tackling folks.

ILB....they have these guys rated high...Cravens 23rd, Foster 25th and Compton 35th. one thing noticeable is Foster they have rated poor in his run defense...

Dline...lets just say Baker is rated 22nd highest Dlinemen and everyone else is garbage.

Edge Defenders: Trent Murphy 31st highest grade....Kerrigan 54th and Preston Smith is 69th and rated extremely poor in pass rush and run defense. Maybe he should sit?


Cousins isn't rated high...29th in the league. Which he was so terrible in the first 2 games of the season its no surprise.

CB Phillips is rated 112, he shouldn't see the field. Kendell Fuller was rated meh in his first start but came up in support of the run well. Which is no surprise, that's how they are taught at Va Tech
Great post, thanks.

Surprised by Foster run defense grade, he was disappointingly quiet the first 3 weeks but last 2 weeks he picked up and was outstanding against the Ravens IMO.
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Cooley's Grades for the Defense against Baltimore from his film breakdown on 980:

10 Hall of Fame
9 All Pro
8.5 Pro Bowl
8.0 Really Good NFL Starter
7.0 Average NFL Starter (everybody starts here)
6.0 Back Up
Less than 6 looking for a job.

Murphy 9.4
Smith 8.5

Baker 8.2
Ioannidis 8.1
Hood 8.0
Francois 7.5
Jenkins 7.4

Foster 9.0
Compton 8.9

Norman 9.0
Toler 8.5
Fuller 8.5
Dunbar 7.3

Ihenacho 8.4
Blackmon 7.5

Everybody on the defense he says was above average.
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Awesome stuff, thanks for posting Jelly

I've thought for a few weeks Ihenacho should be starting.. Also glad to see Cooley thought so highly of Ioannidis, did not think he would contribute much this year

Btw I had plenty of reservations about the signing, but I'm finally on Norman bandwagon, he gets beat sometimes like anybody but he's a damn good playmaking corner and brings so much character to this defense, through 5 weeks he is definitely worth the 75 million imo
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Awesome stuff, thanks for posting Jelly

I've thought for a few weeks Ihenacho should be starting.. Also glad to see Cooley thought so highly of Ioannidis, did not think he would contribute much this year

Btw I had plenty of reservations about the signing, but I'm finally on Norman bandwagon, he gets beat sometimes like anybody but he's a damn good playmaking corner and brings so much character to this defense, through 5 weeks he is definitely worth the 75 million imo
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What he mentioned about Ioannidis was his motor and hustle. He says he is slow, and is never going to be a guy who can get to the QB but plays gap responsible and is strong. He was in on several tackles out of pure determination.
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I knew Murphy was good from the eye test, didn't think he was that good. Really surprised.
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:04 PM   #42
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From PFF yesterday after the game:

Trent Williams earning All-Pro billing

Trent Williams has consistently graded amongst the league’s top tackles, but has always been somewhat overlooked due to the proximity of elite talents like Jason Peters and Tyron Smith. Should this form persist, however, Williams’ exploits will be hard to ignore. He gave up only one hurry on 41 dropbacks, and facilitated a number of long runs with cutoff blocks on the backside of Washington’s trademark outside zone. Williams’ athleticism makes him a match for any linebacker at the second level, and his power ensures he’s rarely beat once in position. Rarely does a tackle inflict fear in opposing defenses, but Williams is a special player.
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With the exception of 96-99, and since 1981, we have had some kick ass left tackles:

1981 - 88 Joe Jacoby (Four Pro-Bowls, Two All-Pro)

1989 - 95 Jim Lachey 89-95 (w/ Skins - Two Pro-Bowls, Two All-Pro)

1996 - 99 [Ed Simmons/Shar Pourdanesh/Tony Drake/Andy Heck]

2000 - 09 Chris Samuels (Six Pro Bowls, One All-Pro)

2010 - ?? Trent Williams (Four Pro-Bowls).

That's a pretty impressive run.
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With the exception of 96-99, and since 1981, we have had some kick ass left tackles:

1981 - 88 Joe Jacoby (Four Pro-Bowls, Two All-Pro)

1989 - 95 Jim Lachey 89-95 (w/ Skins - Two Pro-Bowls, Two All-Pro)

1996 - 99 [Ed Simmons/Shar Pourdanesh/Tony Drake/Andy Heck]

2000 - 09 Chris Samuels (Six Pro Bowls, One All-Pro)

2010 - ?? Trent Williams (Four Pro-Bowls).

That's a pretty impressive run.
good call, i forgot williams came in right when samuels retired.

i was just thinking about tre johnson today, that made me think about good ol' shar.
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According to Wikipedia, Tre' Johnson is now a history teacher and coach at an upscale private school in Bethesda, MD. Just a random FYI. He was one of those guys who would've fit right in with the Hogs.

Shar Pourdanesh - still the only Iranian American NFL player.
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