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Old 12-19-2016, 12:40 PM   #61
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Was Gus's success in Seattle due to the players he had or his own coaching? Seems like they did just fine without him at the Defensive helm..
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Old 12-19-2016, 01:26 PM   #62
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First thing I thought when hearing about Bradley is he should be on our short list if we make a change.
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Given that Bradley coached the Seattle defense to dominance with players acquired based on Scot McC's drafting, seems to me to be a very good match.
That's an excellent point you made.
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Old 12-19-2016, 03:33 PM   #64
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If McVay can't fix his red zone issues then he has to go. I'm sorry but getting all the way down the field and not scoring touchdowns with this talent is unacceptable. We score a lot but should score even more.

From last year thru the first part of this year I've been one of Barry's worst critics. He isn't aggressive enough for me. But the last few weeks, I've stopped blaming him for everything. We just don't have much talent on defense. If we had the same offensive talent as defensive we'd be a 4-12 team.

I think they should both come back next year. McVay works on his red zone calling and Barry gets another chance with more talent. Hopefully they can both improve.

I'm starting to like Jay Gruden, I hope he sticks around for awhile.
McCloughan has to draft primarily defensive talent outside of a new running back....I truly don't want Barry to remain beyond this season. But I understand that he receives all sorts of blame that should go to the GM for lack of talent on defense. I think McCloughan has done an excellent job in finding football players to make this team competitive though...
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Old 12-19-2016, 03:38 PM   #65
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First thing I thought when hearing about Bradley is he should be on our short list if we make a change.
id say make it day 1 after the offseason, unless we win the Super bowl. Then Barry can stay another year, cause I need a reason to bitch after a super bowl win.
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:49 PM   #66
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First thing I thought when hearing about Bradley is he should be on our short list if we make a change.
I would definitely bring him in for an interview, but if I'm not mistaken Gruden has total control over his coaching staff, and McC doesn't get involved with that. I'm sure McC would recommend Bradley based off Seattle, but ultimately it's up to Gruden.
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McCloughan has to draft primarily defensive talent outside of a new running back....I truly don't want Barry to remain beyond this season. But I understand that he receives all sorts of blame that should go to the GM for lack of talent on defense. I think McCloughan has done an excellent job in finding football players to make this team competitive though...
Should we use a draft pick on a running back? I mean i thought all of us were pretty happy with "Fat" Rob even though he isn't really fast, but i feel like he is our perfect bruising running back that we haven't had for a long time...
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Old 12-20-2016, 03:23 AM   #68
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Either Fat Rob or Jones won't be here next year. They are too similar. Based on what I've seen Jones is gone. Any RB draft pick would be later though. I think the guy from Georgia replaces Jones. Besides drafting a guy that can play G/C every pick should be defensive guys. Let's give Barry a fair deck to play with.
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Joe Barry needs to go ASAP. Last night was a prime example, he's too scared to bring the heat and just let's every QB sit back and have all day to throw. Cam could have stood back there all night and had 500 yards passing if he really wanted too.

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Joe Barry needs to go ASAP. Last night was a prime example, he's too scared to bring the heat and just let's every QB sit back and have all day to throw. Cam could have stood back there all night and had 500 yards passing if he really wanted too.

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Barry isn't the one I'm mad at from this game...

Sure he could've bring more pressure, but defense made some stops.

Allowed two TD: one on a blown coverage, one were the Panthers got the ball on our 1 yard line following KC's fumble (following Vernon Davis shitty block).

Honestly I didn't expect that much out of them. Offense let them down big time, defense really did the best they could to keep this team in the game.
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Old 12-20-2016, 10:01 AM   #71
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Fire both coordinators. We can do better.

I'm not very happy with Jay Gruden, either. If he had quit after last night's putrid game, I wouldn't have minded one bit.
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Fire both coordinators. We can do better.

I'm not very happy with Jay Gruden, either. If he had quit after last night's putrid game, I wouldn't have minded one bit.
Well... that escalated quickly ^^

Last night was frustrating AF. But let's not forget we've had our two best seasons in many years, this year with a tough schedule, in an even tougher division, we can still make the playoffs, and with a good offseason and a few playmakers on defense (priority to DLs and safeties) we could be a legitimate contender next season.

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Old 12-20-2016, 08:18 PM   #73
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Fire both coordinators. We can do better.

I'm not very happy with Jay Gruden, either. If he had quit after last night's putrid game, I wouldn't have minded one bit.
ha, ha...I feel the same way.

Ahh, the highs and LOWS of being a 'skins fan.

by the way...I'm officially on the band wagon now....

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Should we use a draft pick on a running back? I mean i thought all of us were pretty happy with "Fat" Rob even though he isn't really fast, but i feel like he is our perfect bruising running back that we haven't had for a long time...
Dalvin Cook from Florida State is better than Kelley. I can see McCloughan drafting him.
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Dalvin Cook from Florida State is better than Kelley. I can see McCloughan drafting him.


Dalvin Cook is going to be a stud. Would love to have him. However there is no way he is there in round 5 and we best go with D for rounds 1-4!
If we pick offense in rounds 1-3 I do not think I will watch next year. I mean barring some miraculous turn around by the D this year that carries into the post season we just cannot afford to neglect the middle of our D again. I want a stud DT, and a stud MLB, and a stud DE in the first three freaking rounds. Would accept S or CB in there too. But we need serious upgrades at DT, MLB.
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