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Old 03-02-2017, 02:44 PM   #211
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Re: Trouble in Redskins Park?

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You are giving thw combine way to much importance. It has become a media three ring circus. We are drafting football playerseason not work out track stars.
Film study, interviewso, medical background and background check are just as important.
Combine is overblown
You do realize a lot of that happens at the combine,right?
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Old 03-02-2017, 02:55 PM   #212
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Yeah I'd say the combine is a big deal and you want your main decision makers there. It's more than just scouting the upcoming picks, contracts are discussed, trades, etc.
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Old 03-02-2017, 03:00 PM   #213
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It might be an overhyped shitshow for the fans, but it's actually pretty important for NFL teams. I don't think 40 times are the biggest factor there, this is your best chance to get to know players 1 on 1. And like Matty said, talking business with agents and other teams also happens a lot.
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Old 03-02-2017, 03:10 PM   #214
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I'm not trying to say that Bruce Allen is gods gift to scouting or drafting, but I don't understand to ultimate animosity towards him. Have you looked at his one and only draft class.
ROUND (PICK) PLAYER SCHOOL
2 (47) LB Trent Murphy Stanford
3 (66) From Dallas OT Morgan Moses Virginia
3 (78) From Dallas G Spencer Long Nebraska
4 (102) CB Bashaud Breeland Clemson
5 (142) WR Ryan Grant Tulane
6 (186) From Tennessee RB Lache Seastrunk Baylor
7 (217) TE Ted Bolser Indiana
7 (228) From Tennessee K Zach Hocker Arkansas

Depending on how you classify Murphy that is four starters and a utility receiver out of seven total picks, none of which is a first rounder. I'll take that every year thank you
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Old 03-02-2017, 03:14 PM   #215
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Lache Seastrunk, LOL. I love pulling up some of the old names you forgot about from teams past.

Ade Jimoh, LOL
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Old 03-02-2017, 03:16 PM   #216
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I'm not trying to say that Bruce Allen is gods gift to scouting or drafting, but I don't understand to ultimate animosity towards him. Have you looked at his one and only draft class.
ROUND (PICK) PLAYER SCHOOL
2 (47) LB Trent Murphy Stanford
3 (66) From Dallas OT Morgan Moses Virginia
3 (78) From Dallas G Spencer Long Nebraska
4 (102) CB Bashaud Breeland Clemson
5 (142) WR Ryan Grant Tulane
6 (186) From Tennessee RB Lache Seastrunk Baylor
7 (217) TE Ted Bolser Indiana
7 (228) From Tennessee K Zach Hocker Arkansas

Depending on how you classify Murphy that is four starters and a utility receiver out of seven total picks, none of which is a first rounder. I'll take that every year thank you
This was the draft where Allen had contracted for McCloughan's scouting service when we was in between the Seahawks and Redskins jobs. So I wonder how much of a thumbprint he had on this thing.

Still, with each draft class I'm looking for one or more difference makers, and at least 2 starters. I classify Moses as a difference maker, and we've gotten starting production out of 3 others. Not bad for not having a 1st rounder.
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Old 03-02-2017, 03:22 PM   #217
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Agreed, I am sure the McC report was used heavily but remember we kept most of our scouts and they are still in place too.

Moses is a Difference maker, I think Long will be the long term solution at C and looks to be top 1/3 at the positon, If they would just let Trent keep his hand in the dirt I feel he could be border line pro-bowler and Bre should be the starter at Nickel and let Dunbar or Fuller be on the outside.

remembering old late round names that I got jacked up about is the best. Bacarri Rambo
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I'm not trying to say that Bruce Allen is gods gift to scouting or drafting, but I don't understand to ultimate animosity towards him. Have you looked at his one and only draft class.
ROUND (PICK) PLAYER SCHOOL
2 (47) LB Trent Murphy Stanford
3 (66) From Dallas OT Morgan Moses Virginia
3 (78) From Dallas G Spencer Long Nebraska
4 (102) CB Bashaud Breeland Clemson
5 (142) WR Ryan Grant Tulane
6 (186) From Tennessee RB Lache Seastrunk Baylor
7 (217) TE Ted Bolser Indiana
7 (228) From Tennessee K Zach Hocker Arkansas

Depending on how you classify Murphy that is four starters and a utility receiver out of seven total picks, none of which is a first rounder. I'll take that every year thank you
PLUS! He very much cleaned up our salary cap issues. BA has done a pretty good job especially since he took over after the Vinny regime.

I am personally glad to have BA.

Also lets remember folks people are not beating the door down for a chance to work with DS either.
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Lache Seastrunk, LOL. I love pulling up some of the old names you forgot about from teams past.

Ade Jimoh, LOL
Yessssssss! Remember Ade Jimoh Fan Club?!
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:11 PM   #220
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Lache Seastrunk, LOL. I love pulling up some of the old names you forgot about from teams past.

Ade Jimoh, LOL
Sultan McCullough.

Let's see how far back we can take this.
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Sultan McCullough.

Let's see how far back we can take this.
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:55 PM   #222
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Old 03-02-2017, 05:00 PM   #223
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Enough with the Allen lovefest. Are some of you forgetting Andre Roberts? Or him pissing away draft picks on two QB's? Or what about missing on Hatcher?

His 14 draft class is average. Murphy is an ok player. Breeland basically stunk last year. He's another average player. Moses is a solid starter for us. Reed is a really good pass catching TE but can't block. Long is another average player.

Just not a fan of Allen as someone who can build a team via draft. He's like Snyder and loves free agents. That's one reason they get along.
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Old 03-02-2017, 05:02 PM   #224
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Enough with the Allen lovefest. Are some of you forgetting Andre Roberts? Or him pissing away draft picks on two QB's? Or what about missing on Hatcher?

His 14 draft class is average. Murphy is an ok player. Breeland basically stunk last year. He's another average player. Moses is a solid starter for us. Reed is a really good pass catching TE but can't block.

Just not a fan of Allen as someone who can build a team via draft. He's like Snyder and loves free agents. That's one reason they get along.
I'm not as hardcore about it as you are, but I don't want Allen team building either. I'll give him due credit for 2014, Murphy is solid, Breeland has had an up and a down year so the jury is still out on him, Moses is a fine pick as is Jordan Reed. But other than that he's been more miss than hit as a talent evaluator.
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Old 03-02-2017, 05:55 PM   #225
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Honestly it could Jesus Christ in charge of the Skins and some of you would still complain.

If not BA then who? Remember they got want come here too and deal with DS.
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