Sean Taylor Charged with Aggravated Assault

Paintrain · 06-05-2005, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamf

there are conflicting stories.
one report says taylor shot at a persons home.
another says he pointed a gun at someone then left only to come back to beat him up.

either way, he will probably plead to a lesser charge. do community service and the nfl will suspend him for the first 4 games.
its true our legal system takes far too much time to prosecute someone but i cant image ST actually wanting the case to go to trial.

To your first point, that's even more reason why people need to chilax for a minute until they reveal exactly the role that he played and the complete charges.

As to your second point, I don't think the NFL can suspend him 4 games for a first offense if convicted/plea bargained. I am pretty sure a one game suspension is the max for the first offense. Had he pled/been convicted on the DUI then maybe a 4 game suspension but I'm sure it is less than 4 games for the first offense.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 06-05-2005, 12:31 PM

SI.com is saying something different:

Police said Taylor, 22, was accompanied by his attorney, Fred Moldovan, when he turned himself in. He has been charged with aggravated assault with a firearm and simple battery.

According to police, Taylor pointed a gun at someone last Wednesday during a dispute over two all terrain vehicles he claims the victims had stolen. Taylor, who was with others, left the scene but returned about 10 minutes later and assaulted one victim with his fists. Another man, Charles Elwood Caughman, threatened and chased another victim with a baseball bat, police said.

Caughman, 19, was arrested later that day and charged with aggravated assault, police said.

jbcjr14 · 06-05-2005, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I agree, saying he's done for the year already is jumping the gun a bit, our fine legal system doesn't work that fast fellas

I used to live in FL....if he is convicted, FL Law has a minimum sentence of 5 yrs for those crimes commited with a handgun.

He is SCREWED if convicted!!!

redrock-skins · 06-05-2005, 02:04 PM

If I had my way, he would be cut, but I understand it doesn't work that way. I really would rather just cut our losses now and move on, even if it hurts us in the short run.

RedskinRat · 06-05-2005, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prop13

I'm with you Paintrain, we should do what we can to get our money's worth.

...and in that spirit, I'd hope something like the following might happen:

*ring* *mumble*

Taylor's Mom: "Sean, Mr. Rosenhaus is on the phone."

Sean Taylor: "What does he want?"

Taylor's Mom: "He says that contract renegotiation isn't goin' so well anymore."

Sean Taylor: "Tell him I'll call him back."

*mumble* *click*

...forty-five seconds later...

*ring* *mumble*

Taylor's Mom: "Sean, Mr. Gibbs is on the phone."

Sean Taylor: "What does he want?"

Taylor's Mom: "He says you can't come to camp unless you renegotiate your contract."

Sean Taylor: "Huh? ...Let me talk to him!"

Taylor's Mom: "He hung up."

redrock-skins · 06-05-2005, 02:11 PM

His contract should be renegotiated-FOR LESS MONEY!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 06-05-2005, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbcjr14

I used to live in FL....if he is convicted, FL Law has a minimum sentence of 5 yrs for those crimes commited with a handgun.

He is SCREWED if convicted!!!

My friend lived in Vero Beach and he's a card-carrying member of the NRA and he told me the same thing - Florida doesn't screw around with criminals who mess with guns. However, a plea agreement is reached in 98% of all criminal cases. I would have to imagine that any such plea agreement would result in a lowering of the weapons charge to a non-firearm related offense.

ST21 · 06-05-2005, 02:19 PM

He Gone

NYCSkin · 06-05-2005, 02:24 PM

The modern day star athlete rarely goes to jail. Taylor may face charges but will end up with probation and community service. Rosenhaus and his lawyers will make sure of that if the charges even hold up. Hell if you are an NFL star--you can kill someone nowadays and get off (Leonard Little).

Me or you point a gun at someone=we're going to jail.

Sean Taylor ends up in bed with a dead hooker=probation and community service...

redwagonskins · 06-05-2005, 02:45 PM

offiss,
dude flashing a gun at a guy is a crime...hate to break it to you, and since it involves said gun it is also a gun related cime. you can't just threaten people with a gat.
btw, do you think he has a concealed weapons permit or the gun is registered? doubt it.

redwagonskins · 06-05-2005, 03:15 PM

Assault

Threat to inflict injury with an apparent ability to do so. Also, any intentional display of force that would give the victim reason to fear or expect immediate bodily harm.

Assault = Crime
Assault with a weapon = really bad crime

you don't have to shoot, hit, bite someone to be charged with assault. using a weapon to intimidate or threaten is assault with a deadly weapon.
If he's been charged with felony aggravated assault, that is a min one year sentence. Add the gun to the equation and the stakes go up. Of course, I am sure he has a great lawyer on retainer.
Don't embarass the organization? I'd say this is pretty embarassing.

mooby · 06-05-2005, 03:28 PM

well he's been released on bond and they are gonna set up a date later, but i hope he takes this time to come back to camp, apologize for making the redskins look bad, and use whatever free time he has left to workout with the team. if i were him i would drop all contract renegotiations (sp), and try to salvage what's left of this offseason before he possilbly goes to jail for an extended period of time.

Daseal · 06-05-2005, 03:31 PM

Washington Post reported today (Sunday) that he's only a person of interest and don't know if he was a victim, witness, or if he participated. I hope this is false!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 06-05-2005, 04:16 PM

We've got a lot of speculation and few facts.

redwagonskins · 06-05-2005, 04:17 PM

inflicting harm does not matter. threatening to inflict harm is aggravated assault. aggravated assault is a felony. he has been charged with aggravated assault and released on bond. if indeed these guys stole his ATV's (not his car) and he had a permit for a weapon (yet to be determined) you still can't flash a gun at someone and then come back later and beat some guy up. it dosn't matter if they stole his crap, you can't brandish a weapon unless it's self defense. the fact that he left the scene then came back and beat some dude does not ring of self defense BUT aggravated assault. doesn't mean he'll be found guilty or go to jail. it DOES mean, he is a total jackass.

06-05-2005, 12:31 PM	#32
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 8,317	Re: Talyor 2 Be Charged 4 Aggravated Assault SI.com is saying something different: Police said Taylor, 22, was accompanied by his attorney, Fred Moldovan, when he turned himself in. He has been charged with aggravated assault with a firearm and simple battery. According to police, Taylor pointed a gun at someone last Wednesday during a dispute over two all terrain vehicles he claims the victims had stolen. Taylor, who was with others, left the scene but returned about 10 minutes later and assaulted one victim with his fists. Another man, Charles Elwood Caughman, threatened and chased another victim with a baseball bat, police said. Caughman, 19, was arrested later that day and charged with aggravated assault, police said.

06-05-2005, 02:04 PM	#34
redrock-skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 783	Re: Talyor 2 Be Charged 4 Aggravated Assault If I had my way, he would be cut, but I understand it doesn't work that way. I really would rather just cut our losses now and move on, even if it hurts us in the short run.

06-05-2005, 02:11 PM	#36
redrock-skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 783	Re: Talyor 2 Be Charged 4 Aggravated Assault His contract should be renegotiated-FOR LESS MONEY!

06-05-2005, 02:19 PM	#38
ST21 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 519	Re: Talyor 2 Be Charged 4 Aggravated Assault He Gone

06-05-2005, 02:24 PM	#39
NYCSkin Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 41 Posts: 513	Re: Talyor 2 Be Charged 4 Aggravated Assault The modern day star athlete rarely goes to jail. Taylor may face charges but will end up with probation and community service. Rosenhaus and his lawyers will make sure of that if the charges even hold up. Hell if you are an NFL star--you can kill someone nowadays and get off (Leonard Little). Me or you point a gun at someone=we're going to jail. Sean Taylor ends up in bed with a dead hooker=probation and community service...

06-05-2005, 02:45 PM	#40
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	Re: Talyor 2 Be Charged 4 Aggravated Assault offiss, dude flashing a gun at a guy is a crime...hate to break it to you, and since it involves said gun it is also a gun related cime. you can't just threaten people with a gat. btw, do you think he has a concealed weapons permit or the gun is registered? doubt it.

06-05-2005, 03:15 PM	#41
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	Re: Talyor 2 Be Charged 4 Aggravated Assault Assault Threat to inflict injury with an apparent ability to do so. Also, any intentional display of force that would give the victim reason to fear or expect immediate bodily harm. Assault = Crime Assault with a weapon = really bad crime you don't have to shoot, hit, bite someone to be charged with assault. using a weapon to intimidate or threaten is assault with a deadly weapon. If he's been charged with felony aggravated assault, that is a min one year sentence. Add the gun to the equation and the stakes go up. Of course, I am sure he has a great lawyer on retainer. Don't embarass the organization? I'd say this is pretty embarassing.

06-05-2005, 03:28 PM	#42
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 24 Posts: 11,173	Re: Talyor 2 Be Charged 4 Aggravated Assault well he's been released on bond and they are gonna set up a date later, but i hope he takes this time to come back to camp, apologize for making the redskins look bad, and use whatever free time he has left to workout with the team. if i were him i would drop all contract renegotiations (sp), and try to salvage what's left of this offseason before he possilbly goes to jail for an extended period of time.

06-05-2005, 03:31 PM	#43
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,056	Re: Talyor 2 Be Charged 4 Aggravated Assault Washington Post reported today (Sunday) that he's only a person of interest and don't know if he was a victim, witness, or if he participated. I hope this is false! __________________ Best. Player. Available.

06-05-2005, 04:16 PM	#44
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 8,317	Re: Talyor 2 Be Charged 4 Aggravated Assault We've got a lot of speculation and few facts.

06-05-2005, 04:17 PM	#45
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	Re: Talyor 2 Be Charged 4 Aggravated Assault inflicting harm does not matter. threatening to inflict harm is aggravated assault. aggravated assault is a felony. he has been charged with aggravated assault and released on bond. if indeed these guys stole his ATV's (not his car) and he had a permit for a weapon (yet to be determined) you still can't flash a gun at someone and then come back later and beat some guy up. it dosn't matter if they stole his crap, you can't brandish a weapon unless it's self defense. the fact that he left the scene then came back and beat some dude does not ring of self defense BUT aggravated assault. doesn't mean he'll be found guilty or go to jail. it DOES mean, he is a total jackass.

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