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Old 06-05-2005, 04:19 PM   #46
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Re: Talyor 2 Be Charged 4 Aggravated Assault

Facts: "Taylor was accompanied by defense attorney Fred Moldovan when he surrendered on charges of aggravated assault with a firearm and simple battery, police said.

According to a police statement, Taylor pointed a gun at an unidentified person Wednesday during a dispute over two all-terrain vehicles he claimed were stolen. Taylor left the scene but returned about 10 minutes later and punched one person"
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That's the police statement. He pointed a gun (fact), beat some guy up (fact) and was charged with aggravated assault and simple battery (fact). There is not much speculation in saying the guy is facing some serious charges.
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Old 06-05-2005, 04:23 PM   #47
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You're right that he can't flash a weapon and point it at someone unless there's a viable claim of self-defense. However, his returning to the scene doesn't necessarily destroy his self-defense claim (if there is one). If he felt threatened and there are facts to back up that claim, he might have a self-defense defense to the charge. Moreover, returning to the scene and hitting someone isn't aggravated assault - it's simple battery (hence the charge of simple battery).

You're also right that he's a total jackass (based on what we now know). But, we have few facts on which to base a judgment about how strong the State's evidence is, what Taylor did, what Taylor was responding to, in what circumstances he brandished a weapon, and in what circumstances he hit someone. Until I get more information about the whole incident, I still reserve final judgment about the situation and Taylor. My preliminary feeling though is that you are right and he's a total jackass.
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Old 06-05-2005, 04:30 PM   #48
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I think what gets me about the guy is that he mopes through camp last year and the first few games because he isn't starting. He dosen't return ANY calls from Gibbs. He skips workouts. He's already had trouble off the field with the DUI (I know, I know, he was let off). He wants a new contract. He changes his number 4 times (36, 21, 36, 21...). He gets arrested for assault and battery. And the organization says they did this huge background check on him. So either this pattern of behavior has emerged in the last year or the background check was done by the weapons of mass destruction intelligence team.
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Old 06-05-2005, 04:34 PM   #49
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TAYLOR'S CAREER COULD BE OVER.
He is in some deep shit friends. Looks like he might do 10-15. It's a damn shame because this kid really had potential to be one of the great ones. Hope we can get some of that money back.

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Old 06-05-2005, 04:36 PM   #50
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Well, if this episode causes his agent to advise ST to shut his ass up and report to practice ASAP, then maybe some good can come out of it.
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Maybe the Skins can work some kind of work release program with the state of FL.
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TAYLOR'S CAREER COULD BE OVER.
He is in some deep shit friends. Looks like he might do 10-15. It's a damn shame because this kid really had potential to be one of the great ones. Hope we can get some of that money back.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
In any case, what ST did was not right. BUT, if it ends up that the guys he either pulled the gun on, or shot at were not the right guys, what prosecuter would let him off or cut a good deal? If he picked the wrong guys, he's toast.
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Facts: "Taylor was accompanied by defense attorney Fred Moldovan when he surrendered on charges of aggravated assault with a firearm and simple battery, police said.

According to a police statement, Taylor pointed a gun at an unidentified person Wednesday during a dispute over two all-terrain vehicles he claimed were stolen. Taylor left the scene but returned about 10 minutes later and punched one person"
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That's the police statement. He pointed a gun (fact), beat some guy up (fact) and was charged with aggravated assault and simple battery (fact). There is not much speculation in saying the guy is facing some serious charges.
They are not "(fact)" until they are proven in court. The police statement said Ray Lewis stabbed 2 people. The police statement said that O.J. murdered his wife and a friend. The police statement said that Robert Black murdered his wife. For that matter, the police statement said that Sean Taylor was driving drunk, appreared intoxicated and smelled of alcohol, how did that turn out? Until the jury speaks, nothing is "fact".
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They are not "(fact)" until they are proven in court. The police statement said Ray Lewis stabbed 2 people. The police statement said that O.J. murdered his wife and a friend. The police statement said that Robert Black murdered his wife. Until the jury speaks, nothing is "fact".
The jury doesn't decide FACT. They decide if a person could be guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Ray, O.J. and Blake know those facts, not the jury; AND not guilty does not mean they didn't do it.
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Just curious, by law, Taylor can't leave the state of Florida while on bond can he?
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I can't believe all this for a dumb ATV. He could have mine if i knew he was going to do this. anyway at first i heard he shot the house but all the new reports just say he aimed a gun at someone. I am sure he aimed the gun, don't get me wrong, but don't you think that he will get off if it is just the word of those who stole his atvs and those peoples friends, against Taylor's, who is having a first offense( i think) and his top of the line lawyer. To me the worst is the embarrassment that the team must face. He really needs to come back now and show the fans that he isn't a lost cause. If he did shoot the gun then he deserves to go to jail but if not i am glad he didn't do anything stupid or he would be facing some real time. He restrained himself, i am happy that he did, his friend is the one who chased some guy with a bat. and truly i don't care if he did punch anyone. Many of us have had disagreements in the past and it has gotten physical, he punched someone, big deal. The gun is the issue and if he didn't shoot the house i am not to worried. He is charged with a felony but a plee agreement with lessen those charges and a big fine and communittee service will result.

The people he assulted better have stolen his ATVs!!
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The facts, from an updated WPost article:

Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor posted bond and was released from police custody at 11:32 Saturday night after surrendering to authorities and being charged with two counts of aggravated assault with a firearm, a felony, and one count of simple battery, a misdemeanor, according to police and detention center reports. Accompanied by his lawyer, Fred Maldovan, Taylor paid a bond of $16,500 at the Turner, Gilford and Knight Correctional Facility, a source said, and no arraignment date has been set yet.

Taylor, 22, the fifth overall pick in the 2004 draft, was arrested in connection with an incident that occurred Wednesday night in Miami, where he resides. According to a police report, Taylor and a co-defendant, Charles Caughman, 19, of Baltimore, drove up to a residence in a blue 2005 GMC Yukon Denali truck and Taylor pointed a gun at two individuals he believed had stolen two all-terrain vehicles from him and demanded they be returned. No shots were fired and Taylor and Caughman left the scene before returning 10 minutes later.

At this point, police say Taylor, whom the team lists as 6-foot-3, 230 pounds, exited the vehicle and began assaulting one victim, swinging and missing with a closed fist before a fight ensued. Caughman, who was arrested and charged with aggravated assault on the night of the incident, chased the other victim with a baseball bat before he and Taylor fled the scene, according to the police report. The incident took place less than two miles from Taylor's residence in Miami. Police have not been able to determine if the victims were involved in the theft of Taylor's vehicles.



I wonder if his "friend" is the main source of this incident report--maybe he's trying to save his ass by giving them Sean. But still, my guess is Sean pointed the gun. But given the nature of proof, the cost of trials, and Taylor's celebrity staus (and high-paid lawyer), he'll probably plead down to something more minor. But whether it will be a felony or not, we'll see. What a friggin mess. Sean, buddy, you're a millionaire. If someone steals your ATV, have them arrested. And then buy a new one (or five). Now your life may be over...

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The jury doesn't decide FACT. They decide if a person could be guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Ray, O.J. and Blake know those facts, not the jury; AND not guilty does not mean they didn't do it.
So then how can you state the details of Taylors case as 'fact'? Jury acquital also means that they are free, which is all as fans we really care about, right? Let's be honest, we don't care about how this impacts Taylor or the victim, we care about how it impacts the Redskins.
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After reading that, goodluck proving he flashed a gun. That's going to be nearly impossible to prove. From the sound of it he swung and missed... yeah. He'll be at camp.
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The jury doesn't decide FACT. They decide if a person could be guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Ray, O.J. and Blake know those facts, not the jury; AND not guilty does not mean they didn't do it.
Actually, the jury does decide fact - for purposes of the law. That is why they are referred to as the "factfinder." Not guilty doesn't mean they didn't do it, but again, as far as the law is concerned it does mean innocence.
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