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Old 06-10-2005, 03:47 PM   #1
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Toughest off-season ?

If you guys know me I am one of the most postive posters on this site but I have to admit I have really been down on our beloved skins lately. It seems everything this off season has been bad. Sure we picked up a good center and some special teams help but the negitivity surrounding our team is undeniable, examples...

-The Coles/Gardner situation
-Gibbs legend being called into question
-The loss of Pierce and Smoot
-The Draft
-LaVar bitching and moaning
-Sean Taylor the felon

Don't get me wrong I love our team and think we will have a better season this year, but man how much more do we have to take. This seems to be the worst off- season we have had in quite a while. Lift me up guys I need it! What do you think?
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:57 PM   #2
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

Coles/Gardner = We're getting rid of guys who dont wanna be here +
Gibbs being called into question = by noone of any importance +
The loss of Pierce and Smoot = guys who took front loaded contracts
over their "team" offering practically the same money +
The draft = In years to come will be proven a great one +
Sean Taylor the felon = the unconvicted...
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:01 PM   #3
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

I feel ya Dirtbag but you have to admit it has been a rough off season.
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:03 PM   #4
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

I disagree completely. I feel that Casy "f-ing" Rabach is the savior of this off season. hahhaa
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:05 PM   #5
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

I'm with Dirtbag.
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:08 PM   #6
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

Continuity of the coaching staff; 99% particiaption in the OTAs; Rodgers, Holdman, Rabach, Patten (actually, I ilke more than these, but all these seem solid); Samuels restructure; return of Jansen; return of Daniels; return of Bowen; return (hopefully) of Lavar; addition of zone blocking schemes and shotgun; no more bitching and whining from Coles who caught a ton of passes, couldn't run, wouldn't get his toe fixed, etc; not in cap hell--didn't break the bank for palyers (I really liked Pierce, but the gints overpayed...); no more 50/50 breaking our hearts; Don Warren to the FO--reaching out to the oldtime skins; an offseason for the hardest working coach in the NFL (name me one who works harder than Gibbs) to get to know his team and to improve things--Rome wasn't built in a day.

We were so close to winning several games last year. We are not nearly as bad as the pundits think. I am confident that hard work and character will make the skins a better team next year--that's what Gibbs is about. I know it's a claiche, and I know we were 6-10, but I believe that if you out work your opponents, you will win. This is old news in sports and life. Gibbs didn't just "lose it"--he faced a serious struggle (which we are still in the midst of)--and he's approaching it like he always does, by working hard and doing the right things. It may not work, but my bet is that it will. And this isn't some blind faith in Gibbs. Look at most of the winners around. THat's how it's done. Sure, super-talent is important (and We've got some of that), but the rest is attitude and mindset. It takes time to go from losers to winners. Hang in there.
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:16 PM   #7
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

And thats the key, JW. Solid pick ups. Also look at these guys from winning teams...Rogers, Campbell - Auburn. Patten - New England. Even guys like Kevin Dyson have been in some big games. It's obvious atleast to me that were heading in the right direction. We could go 6-10 again this season (God forbid) and I would still have the same confidence in Gibbs and his decisions.
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:17 PM   #8
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

Thanks JWsleep that was really well put, continuity is a key and it can only help our team. Rome in deed was not bulit in a day.
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:21 PM   #9
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

No problem! I know it's tough, especially given the way the media covers the skins (and the fact that the things you mentioned are tough). But the worm will turn!!!
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:41 PM   #10
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

JW, I could not have put it better myself and with a red-zone game last, we were 10-6. Since beefing up the line and procuring 62 FB, TE's, etc. in the draft, that should improve!
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Old 06-10-2005, 05:26 PM   #11
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

This offseason has been one of the better for the skins to bring in some quality players who want to play and that can play. We have some off the field problems but what team that hasn't. We are on the come up for real. Gibbs will get this ship going believe that.
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Old 06-10-2005, 06:42 PM   #12
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

Could look at it this way:

- Fixed our most fundimental need ASAP by signing best center available

- Accuired players along two lines of thinking. 1. Mentally tough players who execute when the pressure is on, 2. Players who are depth and will push starters at the same time ecell on special teams.

- Didn't panic and make whole sale changes. They believe in the team, and the team knows it. Players weren't whinning to the league, they believe the work is worth it because they believe in Gibbs.

- Drafted a good QB who will fight Ramsey every season ...the same way Gibbs coached the first time.

- Strengthend our ability to knock people back at the point of attack and short yardage situations by getting lots of FBs/HBs/TEs (if they are good enough they will be on the field; position is irrelivent)

- Brought in a proven QB coach to help Ramsey and the staff play and coach smarter (Gibbs took that job away from one of his longtime friends - Joe will put nothing before the good of the team)

- I mentioned this earlier but it needs to be a seperate bullet, has improved the talent on our special teams a huge amount.


Bottomline: the way I look at it is we addressed our biggest issue with in the first tow minuets (center) then added small talent / attitude upgrades, depth and special teams. That means we are very close.
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Old 06-10-2005, 06:58 PM   #13
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

Good post Kope. I agree.
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Old 06-10-2005, 07:08 PM   #14
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

I like the offseason, i don't know what happened, it comes over me every year but this year it is different. every year near the beginning of June i feel it, i call it redskin summer, all of the summer i know that we are going to be great, i can't think of any way that a team could beat the compendium of a team, the washington redskins. This year is different, i can't say that we got big players like last year, brunnel and portis, hmmmm, this year i can say that we were consistant and we got our bases covered.
Defense- we were good we still are good, i know we can always get better but we will be at the same level as last year or better with bowen, arrington and daniels in most every down.

OK offense- How does a team that has a rusher who rusher 1300+ yards still be ranked 30th? cause they can't through for sh%#, so what we needed was more time in the pocket, ok, how do we get that?---- O-line, we get rabach and janson this year and that makes our line 40% better, then we may need deep threat, ok who has the deep threat ability, lets look at the leaders last year. hmmm with all recievers with 40+ catches (all the good ones) in ranking of yards per average, ok number 1 ashley lelie, number 2 with 18.6 is SANTANA MOSS AND NUMBER THREE IS DAVID PATTEN WITH 18.2. But i am sure that we have 2 out of the top three in that catagory due to coincidence. No we got them to improve on deep passing and that is the bottom line we got better where we sucked.
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:19 PM   #15
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Re: Toughest off-season ?

it seems to me that there has been more bad than good this offseason. all those reasons they mentioned above were great and all, but far and few between. hopefully it will settle down some.
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