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Old 04-01-2004, 05:57 PM   #31
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Old 04-01-2004, 06:00 PM   #32
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Keep em

The way I see it is Coles is our #1, Gardner is our #2, and now we have Thrash back in the house, he is #3. That to me sounds like a 2004 version of the three amigos. For those of you who don't know who the three amigos are, they Art Monk, Gary Clark, and Ricky Sanders. Keep what we got, It's all good.
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Old 04-01-2004, 06:09 PM   #33
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The way I see it is Coles is our #1, Gardner is our #2, and now we have Thrash back in the house, he is #3. That to me sounds like a 2004 version of the three amigos. For those of you who don't know who the three amigos are, they Art Monk, Gary Clark, and Ricky Sanders. Keep what we got, It's all good.
Believe it or not (and only because I kept calling them that as well), the three amigos were actually the Bronco's receivers in '87 when we beat them in the Super Bowl.

I think they were Vance Johson, Mark Jackson, and Ricky Nattiel...
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Old 04-01-2004, 06:31 PM   #34
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I always thought that Art Monk, Ricky Sanders, and Gary Clark were known as the Posse, I never heard of the three amigos used to nickname that trio
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Old 04-02-2004, 08:31 AM   #35
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Jacobs is still a question mark, but hearing that Gibbs seemed to be very impressed with him definitely says something. Same with Gibbs comparing McCants to Monk. To me, that's the writing on the wall that a trade with RG could, and probably will happen. Nothing against Gardner, he is a good receiver, and at this point better than the two of them (and probably Thrash too), but that's exactly why he has decent trade value.

Also, yes, a 3rd or 4th round pick is not an immediate starter, but any draft pick, trade acquisition, or FA pick-up is a risk as to whether they live up to potential or not, plus an injury could happen at any time. If the teams agree on a certain value for a player in a trade, then thats the risk they take.

Clark, Monk, and Sanders were the Posse. A new 4-man "Posse" of Coles, McCants, Thrash, and Jacobs sounds good to me! Let McCants, Thrash, and Jacobs compete for #2 and #3....
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Old 04-03-2004, 12:29 PM   #36
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Another thing, if Gardner gets traded before draft day, the chances of the Skins drafting Winslow go up, IMO. Another, better weapon on offense...
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Old 04-04-2004, 10:31 AM   #37
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This may be true, but it really does not take away from the fact that we will still be full at the WR position. That really won't become one of our main needs. I think even if he is, we still have a high chance of getting Taylor.
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Old 04-04-2004, 03:37 PM   #38
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Ive got a feel that we shouldnt hold our breaths for a trade before traft day. My gut tells me that the Skins are going to keep quite and then there will be lots of surprises when Paul T. comes out to make announcements. He wants to have trade bait for draft day, and if he trades before then he wont have as much bait to DRAFT TAYLOR AND WINSLOW!!!
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Old 04-05-2004, 06:08 AM   #39
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We could rotate McCants and Jacobs as the number two...

OR - unless we have specific people in mind, hold on to RG until he is a free agent. His cap figure is not that big for a starting receiver.

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We could rotate McCants and Jacobs as the number two...

OR - unless we have specific people in mind, hold on to RG until he is a free agent. His cap figure is not that big for a starting receiver.

Both excellent points, dieselhog. I can definitely see Jacobs and McCants splitting time at #2, with McCants coming in for red zone situations.

But like you say, Gardner's cap numbers do not warrant a trade, and if they keep him he might finally blossom into the player they thought he could be.
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Old 04-05-2004, 06:53 PM   #41
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The Skins give up on peopel to easy. We have a history of signing older players and getting nothing from them. RG is one of the players we have left that we drafted and are grooming, it would be a shame to get rid of him now and lose more youth and someone that might be a core skin that Gibbs is looking for. Id love to see us get Winslow and Taylor but I kinda want us to just draft one and get what we can for trotter and keep gardner and just see what our team can do
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Old 04-06-2004, 08:13 AM   #42
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The two players most people want to take over for RG, McCants and Jacobs, are both younger players that we have drafted and are grooming.

People want to trade Rod primarily for two reasons:
1) We have good depth at WR.
2) He has the most trade value of them (besides Coles, who isn't going ANYWHERE!).
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Old 04-06-2004, 08:33 AM   #43
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Unless we can get a 2nd rounder for Rod, which I think is doubtful, then I say hold on to him.
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Old 04-06-2004, 11:26 AM   #44
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The two players most people want to take over for RG, McCants and Jacobs, are both younger players that we have drafted and are grooming.

People want to trade Rod primarily for two reasons:
1) We have good depth at WR.
2) He has the most trade value of them (besides Coles, who isn't going ANYWHERE!).
His trade value is good, but since he is in a contract year, he is a "rental". He'll be a free agent next year, which is a double-edged sword. He's going to play his tail off, because his numbers will affect his contract, but it's a gamble to trade for him, because even though he'll play hard, he may leave next year.
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Old 04-06-2004, 12:41 PM   #45
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The Rod Gardner plan is so very clear to me....

1) If we trade him, it will only get us a 4th rounder at best - that stinks and is not worth it. We can all agree on that...

2) If we keep him, we give Taylor & McCants another year to mature & develop.

3) As noted in the previous post, Gardner will play his ass off - so we can enjoy him having a "career year" - whatever that is for him.

4) If he's such hot shit this year - then we let some other team pick him up and pay the big bucks or we can resign him and suck it up (not likely). If he leaves, we'll have a ready Taylor & McCants in the wings to pick up the slack!

Let's hold onto Rod!!
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