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Old 07-07-2005, 02:53 PM   #46
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Re: Most Overrated NFL Player?

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Whether or not someone is overrated or underrated is so subjective in my book.

All I'm gonna say is Arrington may be overrated a bit, but the most overrated in the entire league?? I really don't agree.

A BIT???????????????????????

Who other than Lavar would carry that title?

Although I agree that Vick is vastly overated, at least he play's a position that happens to be the toughest on the field, his position as well takes some players 3 years and sometimes longer to really master, I think Vicks durability is his biggest problem, and a major reason why he will never really become a big time QB, but I wouldn't put him in front of Lavar for the most overated player in the league, that honor belongs to Lavar as I have been saying for the last year and a half.
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Re: Most Overrated NFL Player?

Thomas is definitely underrated and I'd throw Jansen in there too.

We saw how valuable he was when we lost him for an entire season. He never gets enough credit for being a top right tackle.

Overrated on the Skins, I can agree with Samuels and Arrington. Two high priced, high profile players.

Sometimes though it's impossible for these players to live up to their incredible hype. Look at the expectations LaVar came into the league with. He was dubbed the next LT... I'm sorry but there will never be another LT.

It's too bad that being the next LA will probably not be enough to satisfy his critics. It's really not fair to him when you think about it.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:58 PM   #48
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A BIT???????????????????????

Who other than Lavar would carry that title?

Although I agree that Vick is vastly overated, at least he play's a position that happens to be the toughest on the field, his position as well takes some players 3 years and sometimes longer to really master, I think Vicks durability is his biggest problem, and a major reason why he will never really become a big time QB, but I wouldn't put him in front of Lavar for the most overated player in the league, that honor belongs to Lavar as I have been saying for the last year and a half.
I'm sorry I just don't think he's the most overrated player in the entire league.

He's been to Pro Bowls, he's had his share of impact games, and he's also had to adjust to several defensive schemes and coaches. He hasn't had the same stability that someone like Urlacher has had.

Speaking of Urlacher, I'd put Urlacher ahead of Arrington on the most overrated list.
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:16 PM   #49
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Re: Most Overrated NFL Player?

Speaking of Urlacher, I'd put Urlacher ahead of Arrington on the most overrated list.[/QUOTE]
I would have to 2nd that. Along with Key shawn Johnson ,Freddy Mitchell...
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:22 PM   #50
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Re: Most Overrated NFL Player?

I've always felt that a couple of Jags-Fred Taylor, Jimmy Smith-are underrated. I don't think they get the credit they deserve.
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Re: Most Overrated NFL Player?

Keyshawn Johnson is a great choice Riggo.

Underrated for the skins there are several choices already mentioned, Jansen, Springs, but I would go with C. Griffin.
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:29 PM   #52
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Left field choice for underrated Skin...How bout Matt Bowen, until he got hurt he was playing great, led the team in sacks. I expect a big year out of Bowen this season.
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I've always felt that a couple of Jags-Fred Taylor, Jimmy Smith-are underrated. I don't think they get the credit they deserve.
I definitely agree with Jimmy Smith and Fred Taylor.

If Smith played for a big market team he'd be a household name.

Taylor got labeled injury prone early in his career but he's quietly put up five 1200+ yard seasons in his 7 seasons played. 4.6 yards per carry is pretty impressive too.
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Re: Most Overrated NFL Player?

If you check the poll on the most overrated article page, Sapp is easily leading at 46.8%.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8622837?over0706

LaVar is currently 3rd with 15.5% of the vote.
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:55 PM   #55
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Welcome to the board Sociofan, Deion is still in the league with the Ravens.

This thread could have been renamed the Mike Vick debate.

Who is the REDSKINS most overated and underated player?
You're kidding me!!! They are going to squeeze another year out of Deion? Doing what? Starting a Fab Four dance troupe in Baltimore? Working as a hot-air blower in cold stadiums? Modeling garish new uniform designs? Who does he think he is--Darryl Green?
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:39 PM   #56
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Re: Most Overrated NFL Player?

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A BIT???????????????????????

Who other than Lavar would carry that title?

Although I agree that Vick is vastly overated, at least he play's a position that happens to be the toughest on the field, his position as well takes some players 3 years and sometimes longer to really master, I think Vicks durability is his biggest problem, and a major reason why he will never really become a big time QB, but I wouldn't put him in front of Lavar for the most overated player in the league, that honor belongs to Lavar as I have been saying for the last year and a half.

Office, you just have it in for lavar for some reason.
lavar has never been the most overrated player on the skins defense, thats like saying joe gibbs is the most overrated coach in the league. it's hard for lavar to get comfortable in a system when the system and the players changes EVERY year, just like it was hard for gibbs to pick up from where he left off 12 years ago.

i would say champ bailey was more overrated then lavar, he got burned more times then lavar was out of position.

if you went back and looked at all the different defensive players that have played on the skins with lavar i would garentee you would find a more overrated player for each year.
here's a few names that come to mind.
bailey
sanders
stubblefield
smoot
trotter
and thats just on defense, there are even more on offense. so to say lavar is the most overrated redskin is just rediculouse.
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Old 07-07-2005, 06:46 PM   #57
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I'm sorry I just don't think he's the most overrated player in the entire league.

He's been to Pro Bowls, he's had his share of impact games, and he's also had to adjust to several defensive schemes and coaches. He hasn't had the same stability that someone like Urlacher has had.

Speaking of Urlacher, I'd put Urlacher ahead of Arrington on the most overrated list.

Sorry?? For what? Having an opinion? Come on we all have opinion's, nothing to be sorry for.
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Office, you just have it in for lavar for some reason.
lavar has never been the most overrated player on the skins defense, thats like saying joe gibbs is the most overrated coach in the league. it's hard for lavar to get comfortable in a system when the system and the players changes EVERY year, just like it was hard for gibbs to pick up from where he left off 12 years ago.

i would say champ bailey was more overrated then lavar, he got burned more times then lavar was out of position.

if you went back and looked at all the different defensive players that have played on the skins with lavar i would garentee you would find a more overrated player for each year.
here's a few names that come to mind.
bailey
sanders
stubblefield
smoot
trotter
and thats just on defense, there are even more on offense. so to say lavar is the most overrated redskin is just rediculouse.

Elfkins, Please don't start comparing Lavar to Gibb's I may have to throw up.

I do like your bringing up of Champ though, my belief was at the time that Smoot was a better CB than Champ, and I used to tell my Giant buddies that all the time, but I would have been exiled from this board if I harped on it at the time, Champ is right there with Lavar as being overated, but Lavar defiently beats him out.


As for some of those other names, Deion is over the hill not overated, How did Trotter look this year? No way he looked overated, probably come back player of the year IMO, we made him look overated, Stubby had established himself before we signed him and was deserving of his contract, we have had a way of bringing out the worst in some players. Smoot is not overated, if anything going in to last season he was underated, I don't think he was worth his contract but that doesn't neccasarily alway's make you overated, just means he was lucky enough to find a team with a real need at his position.



As for Urlacher, we all know he's hyped up, but the kid can play, I have seen him to many times to say otherwise, is the kid Dick Butkis in the middle? No! but he is a good MLB, and IMO has outplayed Lavar since they entered the league.
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i'm not comparing lavar to gibbs as person to person, i'm comparing their situations. as for those guys i mentioned as being more overrated than lavar, on the day the skins signed each one of thos players, they were more overrated than lavar. smoot was overrated because many people think he was a #1 cb but he was only a decent #2.
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Firstdown, You Said It, One Season Hurt, 3 Season In The League...2 Playoffs...wow...if M. Vick Was White, Would He Steve Young, And Was Steve Young Overrated Before Or After He Won The Superbowl, Its Always Funny To Me How Players Like Mike Vick, Gets Picked On But No One Says Anything About All Those Bust That Came In The League Or In The League Now, That M Vick Hasn't Thrown At A High Percentage, But Can He Get Some Years In About 5 Before We Start Calling Him A Bust, They Said That About Mcnabb, So If Peyton Didn't Have Marvin Harrison, What Would His Stats Be Like, And Have Manning Been As Deep In The Playoffs As Vick.....i Sure For You Slo Footed Folks, That You Couldn't Possibily Couldn't Understand That Kind Of Athleticism...will See Who Will Make The Superbowl First
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