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Old 07-13-2005, 07:00 PM   #1
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Maybe a Turnaround?

The judge is letting Taylor go to work

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/WAS/8641007

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MIAMI (July 12, 2005) -- A judge allowed Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor to travel to training camp, and state prosecutors did not offer a plea deal at a court hearing to discuss charges the player pointed a gun during a dispute over an all-terrain vehicle.

Will Taylor attend camp? Will this help to take his mind off things? Will this be the beginning of a turnaround?

Tune in tomorrow for another episode of the soap opera surrounding the Redskins.

What are y'alls thoughts?
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Old 07-13-2005, 07:20 PM   #2
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When did Taylor ever say he was holding out for a new contract? When did Taylor say he wouldn't be in camp. I honestly think he took a lot of shit this season and wanted to just go home and get it off his mind and come back fresh. I, for one, feel that constant off-season workouts just contributes to extra injuries. As long as he comes to the MANDITORY camps and not the optional ones I can deal with it.
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Old 07-13-2005, 07:32 PM   #3
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I think that he will show up and have a pro bowl season. Kobe Braynt played pretty good for the Lakers 2 years ago when he was going through his legal troubles. Sean will do the same. I bet he will get off like Kobe did too.
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Old 07-13-2005, 07:39 PM   #4
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Gibbs was letting him go to work to but that didnt get him to do it, lol. I hope he goes and stops worrying about a new contract. That or just add a clause sayign we will pay for his lawyers during the contract. That could add up to more than a signing bonus.
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Old 07-13-2005, 07:48 PM   #5
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I think that he will show up and have a pro bowl season. Kobe Braynt played pretty good for the Lakers 2 years ago when he was going through his legal troubles. Sean will do the same. I bet he will get off like Kobe did too.
Damn, as much as I HATE Kobean I have to agree (somewhat) with the correlation.. If Taylor plays to half the level Ko-me played at then he'll be just fine..
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get off like Kobe did.
hahaha, no pun intended right?
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Old 07-13-2005, 08:36 PM   #7
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When did Taylor ever say he was holding out for a new contract? When did Taylor say he wouldn't be in camp. I honestly think he took a lot of shit this season and wanted to just go home and get it off his mind and come back fresh. I, for one, feel that constant off-season workouts just contributes to extra injuries. As long as he comes to the MANDITORY camps and not the optional ones I can deal with it.
I agree wit u completely well said
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Old 07-13-2005, 08:54 PM   #8
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hahaha, no pun intended right?
I'm glad you caught that TAFKAS. :thumb:
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:20 PM   #9
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Daseal:

You are parsing sentences here like former President Clinton. Taylor never said he would hold out because he wanted a new contract, but he did indeed say he is unhappy with his current deal and wants a new one. And he did indeed skip the "voluntary" workouts that all the other Redskins managed to attend; and all the time, found a way not to return any phone calls from his coach. My assessment is that he has not been a "true Redskin" this offseason.

He'll be in camp and I suspect that his agent will be the one who makes sure he shows up on time for camp. Remember, his lawyer in Florida made a point of getting the court's permission for Taylor to leave the jurisdiction of the court to go to camp because it was important to his job and his career for him to be in camp. It would be very bad for the judge back there to learn later that Taylor was holding out and not going to this thing that the judge allowed him to go to. Important rule for people about to stand trial:


Don't piss off the judge presiding over your case!


I don't read minds so I have no idea why he went home and didn't return any phone calls to his team or his coach. Maybe he agent told him to behave that way. Maybe he is an anti-social MEATHEAD. Maybe he just forgot to place the calls. Or maybe he wanted to get his head straight. I don't know; I suspect you don't know,and I'm not convinced that he knows.

There are 32 NFL head coaches and about 360 NFL assistant coaches who disagree with you that offseason workouts lead to injuries and are more harmful than helpful. Until one team decides to put your theory to the test and decides not to have any off-season workouts - and then that team wins at least a divison title - I'm going to go with the approximately 400 professionals in this field and say that offseason workouts are beneficial to NFL players and teams.
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I'm not saying no offseason workouts at all, however, that was a big topic of discussion on NFL radio today. Also, I believe Brian Billick is really lenient on off-season workouts.
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i believe all workouts are important but with that aside i agree with daseal, Taylor never really said he was holding out. Gibbs also says he didn't know why Taylor wasn't at OTAs, either gibbs was playing for the media or no one ever told gibbs that Taylor was holding out, niether Taylor or Roesenhous, so why would we think he was holding out.
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:49 AM   #12
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Roesenhous has been an agent long enough to know that rookies can't make changes to their contracts in the first year, so knowing that why would he even try.
taylor's not a true redskin. Would you be...
Please remember not everyone grew up loving the skins like us fans. First He's drafted under contriversy, then he sign's a contract many in the league say he got stiffed, then he's been persecuted by the DC media since his arrival. Everyones mad at him cause he choses not to speak. He comes from Miami were he's treated like a god to DC were he's treated like a punk kid on a sorry team. if u haven't noticed 40% of the dc area media act like their cowboys, Giant, or Eagle fans (hate to say it)
while other people around here are stuck in the past.like this is the jack kent cooke era.
I say suppport him as a team and organization and he'll become a true redskin. There have been no real true redskins since Snyder has been the owner. Thats because he is so busy fuckin up everyones contract, stiffin our franchise players and fans (with those outrageous ticket prices), and makin bad impressoins around the league. It's hard to get any real loyalty from any player for the skins now a days. come back Jack!!
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:55 AM   #13
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Re: Maybe a Turnaround?

Just finished watching NFL Live on ESPN, they seem to believe that the hearings will preside after the season is finished.
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We've had other coaches in the past that were lenient with off-season workouts too, and look where that got us.

While we don't need camp Marty again, we certainly don't need camp Norv or camp Spurrier again either. I think Gibbs is very aware of how hard to work the team and can find a happy medium.

I agree there's a fine line between working your guys too hard and getting them in top condition. But I do think working hard in the off-season can have itís benefits. Not just for conditioning, but for building team chemistry.
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You are parsing sentences here like former President Clinton. Taylor never said he would hold out because he wanted a new contract, but he did indeed say he is unhappy with his current deal and wants a new one.
I've never heard ST or Ronsenhaus say it. Maybe I missed the news article that had these quotes. As far as I know, it's all speculation from the media due to the fact that ST never explained his absences.
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