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View Poll Results: Who Should the Redskins Draft at #5
Sean Taylor 47 85.45%
Kellen Winslow 8 14.55%
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Old 04-03-2004, 08:51 PM   #31
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Taylor and Udeze! What a devastating combination that would be. I'm all for it ... someone call Vinny and make it happen.
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Old 04-04-2004, 09:23 AM   #32
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taylor, if only to see him nail shockey and owens
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Old 04-04-2004, 03:24 PM   #33
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Id rather see Taylor keep picking the ball from the air when shockey and owens try to get it and have Bowen smack them to the groud while they are searching for teh ball.
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Old 04-04-2004, 03:44 PM   #34
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....But remember when the Rams won it all with no D to speak of? Hmmm.

Hhhhmmmm I think you are mistaken.
According to: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/ram1999.htm
the Rams defense allowed the 4th lowest points scored on them in the NFL in the year they won the 1999-2000 super bowl. So they had the 4th best defense in the NFL that year in points allowed (which is the best measure of defense).

That era Rams are the perfect example to explain my rants about the importance of defense.
The 1999-2000 Rams had the #1 scoring offense and #4 least scored on defense in the NFL and won the Superbowl.
The 2000-2001 Rams again had the #1 scoring offense, but the #31 out of 31 teams, most scored on defense. Needless to say they did not win the superbowl in 2000-2001.
Which proves you can have the #1 scoring offense in the NFL, but you need a good Defense to win it all!

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Old 04-04-2004, 04:22 PM   #35
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Defense is based on yards allowed, not points. The Skins has what, the number 4,5? d with Lewis but gave up almost the most points. If you have a good O you keep your D off the field more. The rams had a good secondary those years, id be interested to know how many pics they had.
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Old 04-05-2004, 10:56 AM   #36
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Defense is based on yards allowed, not points. The Skins has what, the number 4,5? d with Lewis but gave up almost the most points. If you have a good O you keep your D off the field more. The rams had a good secondary those years, id be interested to know how many pics they had.
We have to agree to disagree about what defense is based on. To me, you win or lose a game by the final score of the game....not on the stats of yards given up or gained.
If my defense holds it's opponents scoreless, but gives up a few extra yards in the process, I can live with that. The main goal of a defense should be to :
1) prevent the other team from scoring
2) get the ball back to the offense
Then we can later worry about yards given up and individual stats, because we won the game.
Al Davis put it best "just win baby".
I don't care if we win 3-0, just win.

Your example of the Redskins defense under Lewis that finished 4th or 5th in yards statistics perfectly explains my point. What good is finishing 4th or 5th in yards if you give up the most points. There are many games you can point to where the team that overwhelmingly out gained the other in yards, but lost the game.

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Old 04-05-2004, 01:04 PM   #37
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I agree with you, I was just saying what the league ranks them by. The Skins under Lewis didnt give up many yards becuase our Offense was horrible, not to mention the special teams
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Old 04-05-2004, 01:21 PM   #38
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If it's between those two I'd go with Taylor. I'm not sure how Winslow would be used in Gibbs' offense, as he appears to be more of a receiver than blocker.
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Old 04-05-2004, 01:26 PM   #39
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He can block, he can pancake a LB, I promise.
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Old 04-05-2004, 01:31 PM   #40
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I still prefer "The Next Ronnie Lott"
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:01 PM   #41
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I'm all for 'The First Sean Taylor'. We haven't had a killer Safety since.......Yikes!
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Old 04-05-2004, 05:41 PM   #42
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Id rather see Taylor keep picking the ball from the air when shockey and owens try to get it and have Bowen smack them to the groud while they are searching for teh ball.
Only problem with this is Bowen would completely miss SHockey or Owens and go flying into the Redskin bench and knock poor trung out! Again!
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Old 04-05-2004, 06:07 PM   #43
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I'm all for 'The First Sean Taylor'. We haven't had a killer Safety since.......Yikes!
This is so wrong and so tasteless and I'm going to run wind sprints up and down the stadium steps as a self-imposed punishment but we haven't had a killer safety/db since http://starbulletin.com/1999/08/25/sports/story1.html
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Old 04-05-2004, 06:49 PM   #44
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Can anyone tell me who we had at Safety in the past, I cant think of any that wer ehere before Sam Shade
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Old 04-05-2004, 06:55 PM   #45
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off the top of my head...Mark Murphy, Curtis Jordan, Alvin Walton, Todd Bowles, James Washington
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