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Old 07-28-2005, 10:59 AM   #31
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Re: Gardner to Panthers

He's a talented guy that will probably frustrate the hell out of Panther fans all year.

But he's going to throw some killer parties! Crank up the drunk bus Carolina here comes 50/50!
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:13 AM   #32
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Re: Gardner to Panthers

Damn, the Panther fans are obviously living in a larger fantasy world than most of us. Check it out.

http://www.panthershuddle.com/newfor...ic.php?t=10930
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:19 AM   #33
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Damn, the Panther fans are obviously living in a larger fantasy world than most of us. Check it out.

http://www.panthershuddle.com/newfor...ic.php?t=10930
Oh lordy

I saw someone say their going to win the Super Bowl now, and another that said he was so excited he was shaking.

You've gotta be kidding me
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:22 AM   #34
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Damn, the Panther fans are obviously living in a larger fantasy world than most of us. Check it out.

http://www.panthershuddle.com/newfor...ic.php?t=10930
Here's a quote from that site:

"oh yeah Nance, isn't Rod in the last year of his deal? I so, I would love to lock him up for like maybe 2.5 - 3 mil a year for about 4 years. I'm sure he'll wait till the end of the year though, unless he feels grateful for us taking him, oh well... I'M JUST HYPED ABOUT HIM COMING HERE."

Believe me, Rod would love to sign for $3 million a year. That'll be $60,000 a catch, if you're lucky. Or, about $75,000 a drop.
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:28 AM   #35
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Oh lordy

I saw someone say their going to win the Super Bowl now, and another that said he was so excited he was shaking.

You've gotta be kidding me
NO WAY!!! Hahahahahahahahahaha!
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Old 07-28-2005, 01:59 PM   #36
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Re: Gardner to Panthers

Someone else said that Carolina has the best WR corp now with the addition of Gardner.
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Old 07-28-2005, 02:11 PM   #37
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Guys, every fan sees things through his/her teams colored glasses. For Carolina, it is a very good pickup. A veteran starter that could be a good #2 or #3 WR. Basically a replacement for Muhammad. And on our end, we got something for a guy that's been a dissappointment and would've been released anyway. Not bad from either point of view. But Superbowl??? Uhhh....ok....BUT honestly in today's NFL, who knows! They are a only year removed from being in the big game. (I wouldn't bet on it though)

As for the arguement that he was a 1st round pick, that is irrelevant. Pierce was a no-name player that performed well and got rewarded with a good deal. Priest Holmes wasn't even drafted. Should guys like these not make more money just because they weren't drafted high? No, they have proven themselves on the field. It works both ways. I wouldn't exactly call him a bust, but Gardner has definitely underachieved, so he is not worth as much as his potential was when he was drafted.
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Re: Gardner to Panthers

I'm going to agree with the first part of your statement. I mean Dyson comes in for us and we all expect him to contribute, but how much do we REALLY think he will? I mean at least we aren't saying he is the missing piece to our Super Bowl team.
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Old 07-28-2005, 02:26 PM   #39
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I know I've deluded myself in relation to some of our past pick ups, but DAMNNN!!! those r some poor misguided people and this from a guy who thinks he'll do pretty well for the panthers but him being the final peice to get them to the superbowl and giving them them best wr corps in the league, DAMNNN!!!
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You MIGHT have been able to think that about TO, but come on!
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Old 07-28-2005, 02:30 PM   #41
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Re: Gardner to Panthers

Hell, I'm hoping Dyson doesnt make the first team. No offense to the guy, but seriously, we have young guys that I really want to see preform in McCants and Jacobs; we have vetaran speedsters in Moss and Patten, we have James thrash who plays the game with more heart than most anyone I've ever seen, and has anyone heard anything about that reciever we worked out from the NFLE?? Or was that the arena league??

Anyway reading the panther's fans reactions to getting gardner is pretty interesting... one even called him more talented than the moose. LMAO.
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Old 07-28-2005, 02:58 PM   #42
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really in my opinion, i wouldn't mind him on our team had he not been a d-bag. He can produce, but his d-bag qualities, his 50/50ness and the cap help, was more of a positive to release rather than to keep him
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that means we get 2$mill in cap space back to pay for our rookie 1st rounders... and we're responsible for the 1.5$ thats left (so we bought a 6th round draft pick for 1.5$mill)...
We save $2.1M in salary and we incur a deadcap charge for Gardner in 2005. My sheets say $660K but it may be closer to $1.2M. Don't think it's as high as $1.5M though.
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Old 07-28-2005, 07:01 PM   #44
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My understanding is that the best we can hope for is a 6th. To get a 5th would mean he makes the pro bowl. A 6th means that he starts over 70% of their games or plays in a high % of their offensive plays. Prediction: 6th rounder. Now, we must get all draft picks signed and in camp.
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Yeah Matty, getting a 7th rounder for a former 1st round pick really changes my opinion of the front office. You are sooo right, I should shut my mouth, whatever was I thinking? This is nothing to high five each other about, its a sad day really as a first round pick hits the door for next to nothing. Gardner has real talent and he'll do well in Carolina.
So much "real talent" that after being on the market for about 6 months the best offer the Redskins got was a sixth round pick.

And by implication, does the whole "former 1st round pick" analysis mean that the Ealges have a worse front office than us because they let Fraudie Mitchell go outright and received nothing in return? I'm not sure I see the point there. It's not like where you are drafted is a guarantee that you'll be worth your salt in the NFL. That's like saying Joey Harrington is worth a higher pick in a trade than Tom Brady because Harrington was a former first rounder and Brady was a 7th. Sorry, I just don't see the connection.
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