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Old 08-09-2005, 09:32 PM   #16
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Re: More Lenny P: O-line manhandled in scrimmage

damn malcolm ever heard of spell check lol.
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no ive hear d of beer check
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Old 08-09-2005, 10:06 PM   #18
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the only thing lenny p manhandles in ihs dong piece
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed a handful of posts lately from Malcolm about Lenny and his "piece"? Sup wit dat?
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leave me and my booze out of this

we're BFF
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:01 AM   #20
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We are starting to here little by little that coaching may be the problem with the skin's and not personel, no one want's to jump to any quick conclusions about a hall of fame coach, but that speculation is starting to arise, as I stated in another thread, this season is bigger for Gibbs, than Ramsey, most management around the NFL believe Ramsey is the good's he's just being held back by inferiour coaching, I really hope Gibbs, AND Bugel, can catch up?
I know you're a big Ramsey fan (I'm rooting for him as well, like any Redskins fan should) and I know you believe in "what have you done for me lately" when it comes to Gibbs, and I respect that. But do you really believe, or better yet do you know for a fact, that management around the NFL that Ramsey is being held back by Gibbs' "inferior coaching?" I'm going to take Gibbs side here. The fact is that he won 3 Super Bowls with 3 different quarterbacks. Yeah it was over a decade ago, but it happened. Talk about "what have you done for me lately" what has Ramsey done other than show us flashes of potential? As much as I'm pulling for Ramsey to succeed for the Redskins, he has yet to earn any rights in the NFL. Especially any over Gibbs
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Re: More Lenny P: O-line manhandled in scrimmage

I don't think either is "holding the other back"--it's more that the whole thing has to gel--and on a Gibbs team that starts with the o-line. My guess is that once that gels, Ramsey will settle down a lot. Remember how long Rypien had to throw back in the day? We don't need to break any records, but Ramsey's gotta get into a comfort zone a bit, a the line's gotta provide that for him. That's the key. Then Ramsey will look good, the recievers will be open, and GIbbs will be a genius--all becuase the blockers hold up for ONE second longer. That's all it will take, IMO. That, a few blitz pickups, and the box won't have 8-9 guys in it. Then hand the ball to Portis and get out of the way.
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Old 08-10-2005, 07:02 AM   #22
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Re: More Lenny P: O-line manhandled in scrimmage

Hey, Offiss, you always seem to have it all figured out don't you? The Redskins should hire you as a consultant. Then maybe we'd start winning. Just do whatever you say and next thing you know we are back in the playoffs.

It isn't that easy. It is hard to take a team that has been nothing more than dismal the last 12 years and turn it around. Give Gibbs the benefit of the doubt. He will turn it around. Give him some time.
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Old 08-10-2005, 07:16 AM   #23
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Imagine where we would be right now as a franchise if we stuck with Ramsey, and traded Champ off for picks? We could be looking at Kevin Jones in our backfield, and we wouldn't have 93 million tied up in 2 players, and we would have a lot more talent on our team with the money and picks we would have saved, aint no way anyone is going to convince me otherwise.
So you think we would have better value with Kevin Jones and another player (Middle Round Draft Pick, And remember Vinny can only pick in the 1st round) then Portis? I begged to differ on this one. HE has stepped up and become a leader on our team which is an intangible that you can not draft. Gibbs goes after guys who will be locker room leaders and Portis is just that. I believe he is money well spent. Who is the second player invloved in the 93 million tie up?
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Old 08-10-2005, 09:04 AM   #24
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Re: More Lenny P: O-line manhandled in scrimmage

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I believe miami was offering up a couple of #1's a year ago
Does anyone else remember this? I believe the Skins asked for a couple of #1s and did not get them. Not the other way around.

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Imagine where we would be right now as a franchise if we stuck with Ramsey, and traded Champ off for picks? We could be looking at Kevin Jones in our backfield, and we wouldn't have 93 million tied up in 2 players, and we would have a lot more talent on our team with the money and picks we would have saved, aint no way anyone is going to convince me otherwise.
That supposes we would have picked Jones. A complete conjecture that has no reasonable counter argument because it is so speculative. To opine that we would have had Jones is worthless since what does it bring to the discussion. It didn't happen and wasn't even in the cards back then.

Also what does the 93 million matter to you? That is real money and nothing for us skins fans to be concerned about. Dannyboy can worry about that. The money we need to worry about is the cap money which granted isn't insignificant but is nowhere near 93 million. That is spin you are spouting.
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Old 08-10-2005, 09:41 AM   #25
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A couple of first round picks for Ramsey?? Please.

I believe there were rumors of one first rounder, but it would have been more likely a second rounder.

I'm tired of debating whether or not Ramsey is the guy for the job, if Gibbs has faith in him, etc.

Talk to me after this season and we'll have a much better idea of where we're going with Ramsey.
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:13 PM   #26
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lol... i believe miami offered a 1st and something else, but that was quite a while ago.
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Old 08-10-2005, 05:16 PM   #27
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Re: More Lenny P: O-line manhandled in scrimmage

I didnt see the scrimmage, but the rest of the article seemed pretty accurate to me. TAFKAS -- It's not "what have you done lately" when you question Gibbs. He's the best COACH we've had in Washington since he left. However, his playcalling and GM duties should be stripped from him if he has a similar season to the last. He's a great motivator but he has yet to prove he can call games in the new NFL, he also hasnt proved that he can manage the cap or scout talent. Since he's come in we've picked up some good players (Portis, Washington, Tupa, Griffen, etc), and some bad -- the draft was VERY questionable. While I think Rogers will make a good pro, I would have rather upped the amount for smoot another million bucks to keep a proven player and go after BMW in the draft. Also, he has no confidence in Ramsey and it WILL chase him away. This isnt an era where you can have a QB sit on your bench for 5 years anymore. Especially a former first round pick - costs far too much against the cap.

So basically, I think that he's a great motivator and teacher, he demands respect. However, let's not try to trick ourselves into think that a majority of the offensive woes last year didnt fall directly on the coaching staffs shoulders, namely the playcalling crew.
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Old 08-10-2005, 06:50 PM   #28
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Re: More Lenny P: O-line manhandled in scrimmage

if he didn't come here i heard he was asked to become atlanta's team president, he's VERY good at being the face of the franchise and motivating players, building unity etc, but i agree with daseal in that the play calling definately needs a major improvement from last year if we want to win more games.

I think last year's draft was GREAT (besides tossing a pick in for brunell, ugh).
I think rodgers and campbell will both be good players too, but we had a shot at BMW which was a bigger need.

either way, we'll see how it works out
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Old 08-10-2005, 06:51 PM   #29
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offiss - come down from there, you could get hurt.
FRPLG is right the Skins wanted two #1's and everyone including Miami balked.
Ramsey has a great arm, that does not make him "have the goods". Jeff "boy" George had the goods and it turned out he sucked.
Ramsey still has many deficiencies that he has not proven on the field that has overcome. His main one I had a problem with in prior years is he hangs on to the ball too long.
We can agree to disagree about Ramsey, but he is not yet a good QB. I agree with Matty72 lets wait until after this season to make a judgement on Ramsey.
NYskinsfan is exactly right, it takes time to break a team of 12 years of losing. Not even Vince Lombardi could turn the Redskins around in one year. Gibbs will turn the skins around...in due time.
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Old 08-10-2005, 06:55 PM   #30
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NYskinsfan is exactly right, it takes time to break a team of 12 years of losing. Not even Vince Lombardi could turn the Redskins around in one year. Gibbs will turn the skins around...in due time.
too bad we'll never know, but we almost had that chance R.I.P.
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