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Old 04-08-2004, 10:33 AM   #1
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Sean Taylor rated best in entire DRAFT

Wow- this is pretty impressive- This guy has Taylor rated as the best player in the entire draft! I said in an earlier post my dream scenario was us trading down to #10, picking up Udeze and an extra second round pick and taking Starks- but this has me rethinking that! I can't wait for draft day to see what happens!

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1. Sean Taylor, safety, Miami ( Fla.)
2. Larry Fitzgerald, wide receiver, Pittsburgh
3. Robert Gallery, offensive tackle, Iowa
4. Eli Manning, quarterback, Mississippi
5. Kellen Winslow, tight end, Miami (Fla.)
6. Ben Roethlisberger, quarterback, Miami (Ohio)
7. Roy Williams, wide receiver, Texas
8. Tommie Harris, defensive tackle, Oklahoma
9. Will Smith, defensive end, Ohio State
10. DeAngelo Hall, cornerback, Virginia Tech
11. Kenechi Udeze, defensive end, Southern California
12. Vince Wilfork, defensive tackle, Miami (Fla.)
13. Dunta Robinson cornerback, SouthCarolina
14. Jonathan Vilma, linebacker, Miami (Fla.)
15. Philip Rivers, quarterback, North Carolina State
16. Shawn Andrews, offensive tackle, Arkansas
17. Kevin Jones, running back, Virginia Tech
18. Steven Jackson, running back, Oregon State
19. Michael Clayton, wide receiver, Louisiana State
20. D.J. Williams, linebacker, Miami (Fla.)
21. Reggie Williams, wide receiver, Washington
22. Greg Jones, running back, Florida State
23. Chris Gamble, cornerback, Ohio State
24. Ben Troupe, tight end, Florida
25. Lee Evans, wide receiver, Wisconsin
26. Darnell Dockett, defensive tackle, Florida State
27. Mike Williams, wide receiver, Southern California
28. Vernon Carey, offensive tackle, Miami (Fla.)
29. Marcus Tubbs, defensive tackle, Texas
30. Rashaun Woods, wide receiver, Oklahoma State
31. Derrick Strait, cornerback, Oklahoma
32. Chris Perry, running back, Michigan
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Old 04-08-2004, 02:17 PM   #2
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Didn't ESPN's John Clayton (or maybe someone else) say something like that a few weeks ago as well? That just based on skills Sean Taylor is the best player in the draft
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Old 04-08-2004, 04:19 PM   #3
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They have said Taylor is the best player in the draft for months now. Not many people have argued it. People dont think a safety will ever go number 1, but they think hes the most talented.

NO ONE that has acutally watched him play thinks he is anything less than a premiere player. Everyone who critisizes him does it based on things they think or have read. If you saw Ed Reed play in college you would have been amazed as well, there were two games that Ed Reed one by picking a pass and scoring on the play, one of which was 96 yards long. And Sean Taylor looked twice as good as Ed Reed did, and all Ed Reed did was win defensive rookie or the year, lead the league in picks....
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Old 04-08-2004, 05:45 PM   #4
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With the 5th pick of National Football League Draft, the Washington Redskins (better) select University of Miami.....Safety Sean Taylor....any questions?
My concern is Dan "never met an offensive player I did not want to draft" Snyder and Vinnie "bag o doughnuts" Cerrrato might jump in here and screw everything up. I think they are going to want Kellen Winslow Jr. Hopefully Gibbs and staff will step in and send Cerrato to 7-11 for some cofee and distract Snyder by having him study the idea of installing coin meters on the toilets at the stadium.

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Old 04-08-2004, 05:58 PM   #5
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Any luck of bringing Charlie Casserly back, I know hes with the Texans now but everyone knows Snyder will use his checkbook to get someone if he wants them. Its a shame we just extended Cerratos contract
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Old 04-09-2004, 01:49 AM   #6
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I think the best thing for us would be if someone would slip a micky in Danny's breakfast drink. Let him sleep though the draft and let Gibbs run the show. Well a man can dream can't he?
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Old 04-09-2004, 02:57 AM   #7
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Taylor as the best in this draft. I don't think so! Sorry but when we look back at this draft years from now and see who was the best it will be Larry Fitzgerald!!!! Now I know that WR is a spot we don't need but he is the best in this draft!!!!

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Old 04-09-2004, 03:17 AM   #8
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Fitzgerald is definitly a talented receiver, probably the most talented to come out of the draft in a very long time. Hes going ot have to pull a Jerry Rice, show everyone that you dotn have to be the most gifted receiver athletically, becuase he is not. Im sure he will do well whereever he goes. BUT, Larry has never gone up against a pro defense, the closest thing hes seen is the Canes defense. Against the Canes he didnt do jack sh**. Well, he scored a touchdown, late in the fourth quarter, against our backups. Prior to that he couldnt even touch the ball. That is why he is not ranked as the best player, because Sean Taylor shut him down.
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Old 04-09-2004, 07:43 AM   #9
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Fitz isn't even the best receiver in the draft. Roy Williams has been deystroying defenses for four years, and even when that loser Chris Simms was chucking the ball at him he caught them. All of his numbers (40, vert, long, shuttle, etc) beat Fitzgeralds. He has all the intangibles, work ethic, etc.

I still see Fitz as first off the board because he has a close relationship with Dennis Green, but I think Roy Williams is the star of the best WR trio to come out in a long time. Roy, Fitz, Mike (which people, including myself, are kind of skeptical about.) Don't turn this into a Mike WIlliams thread, if you want me to explain, start a new one.

Sean Taylor is an amazing player and I would love to have him!

As far as getting rid of Snyder/Cerrato and handing the draft over to Gibbs... I know you guys look for any possible reason to bash the FO, but if we leave Gibbs alone the chances of us drafting Winslow go way up. He's the one so high on the guy, he's the one that knows his father, he's the one that will pull for him to be drafted. Snyder likes the offense, but offense is exciting and sells tickets, but he hasn't exactly ignored our defense. Pulling in Champ, Smoot, Arrington, Washington, etc. I think he wants talent, Winslow and Taylor both bring plenty of it. EIther way, I'm satisfied. Taylor is slightly higher on my list.
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Is it just assumptions and rumor that has Gibbs so in love with Winslow Jr.?
The reason I ask is because I have yet to see a single direct quote from Joe Gibbs himself saying, " I think Winslow Jr. is the pussy cats pagama's and favor drafting him." I have yet to much less see a single direct quote from Gibbs saying which players he likes. Can anyone provide one?
Then I will start to rightfully assume that Gibbs prefers Winslow Jr....because until I hear it from Gibbs it sounds more like deductve reasonning from the press and Warpath posts, rather than actual fact.

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Old 04-09-2004, 05:04 PM   #11
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The only thing thats been said was that they wanted to target Winslow or Taylor, said by the redskins FO, mabye gibbs. The rest is just theory about how he coached his rather and yadda yadda
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Joe Gibbs is very cryptic in his assessments of the players he already has on his roster, so he's not going to come out and say anything directly about any particular player in the draft. The most you're going to get out of him is the standard "he's a very talented young guy", but he's not going to point to any one player and say, "that's the guy I want!"

The belief that Joe Gibbs favors Winslow is based almost entirely on conjecture by the media, who are simply basing their assertions on the fact that Gibbs coached Winslow Sr., the H-back is a key component of his offense, and there isn't a standout player at that position as yet.

For all we know (the media included), Gibbs may be perfectly happy with Sellers, Chamberlain, et al, and the offensive personnel in general, and will yield to Gregg Williams' draft preferences.

Given Winslow's signing with the Poston brothers, the need to solidify the defensive backfield following Champ Bailey's departure-- and the signings of Keyshawn and T.O. by the Cowboys and Eagles-- I would say Taylor is the heavy favorite. But that's purely speculative!
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Joe Gibbs is very cryptic in his assessments of the players he already has on his roster, so he's not going to come out and say anything directly about any particular player in the draft. The most you're going to get out of him is the standard "he's a very talented young guy", but he's not going to point to any one player and say, "that's the guy I want!"

The belief that Joe Gibbs favors Winslow is based almost entirely on conjecture by the media, who are simply basing their assertions on the fact that Gibbs coached Winslow Sr., the H-back is a key component of his offense, and there isn't a standout player at that position as yet.

For all we know (the media included), Gibbs may be perfectly happy with Sellers, Chamberlain, et al, and the offensive personnel in general, and will yield to Gregg Williams' draft preferences.

Given Winslow's signing with the Poston brothers, the need to solidify the defensive backfield following Champ Bailey's departure-- and the signings of Keyshawn and T.O. by the Cowboys and Eagles-- I would say Taylor is the heavy favorite. But that's purely speculative!
Very good point, Joe - especially about the standout player. But think back to all of the TE/H-backs of Gibbs's first tenure. Though they were integral parts of the offense, the position was not a big number slot. In fact, in the proud history of the franchise, only one TE/H-back is listed among the greatest players - Don Warren. To save you all some time before writing Canton about his omission, his best year was 31 catches, and he never had more than 2 TD's in a season. His 14 year career netted him 8 TD's, including playoffs, and he shared the spotlight for most of his career with Clint Didier (who comparatively had gaudy numbers, with 23 TD's in eight seasons). So it's perfectly reasonable to think Coach Gibbs can get what he wants from the position out of the players currently on his team.
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Draft Sean Taylor.
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I think you can make a very viable argument that Tayler is the best athlete in this draft. His combination of speed, size, and hitting exceed anybody in this draft. Those are just is physial skills. Once you factor in his passion, intensity, natural football insticts, ball hawk ability (10 int) then you've got a player who is gonna redefine the game. The best comparison i read about tayler is that he is the the safety postion, what Ray lewis is to the linebacker positon. I pray to go everynight that Synder drafts tayler.
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