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Old 09-16-2005, 12:28 AM   #61
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Re: Video of all of Ramsey's and Brunnell's passes against the Bears

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There have been several QB's that come to mind who didn't reach their maxium potential until their mid 30's. One of our Superbowl MVP's was well into his 30's, so I guess some save the best for last.
the general idea is that Brunell's maximum potential has already come (and gone), while Ramsey hasn't yet come close..
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Old 09-16-2005, 09:34 AM   #62
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Re: Video of all of Ramsey's and Brunnell's passes against the Bears

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Today is Thursday, and I started reading all these Ramsey Vs. Brunell post's on Monday and I'm still not finished yet. Different threads, but all the same information, some like Sonny, some like Billy and we could just go on and on and on, but I don't think Gibbs will change his mind based on what we think. The very best we can do is support whoever is behind Center and "hope" we can win some football games.

What's most confusing about listening to all the various accounts relative to Ramsey Vs. Brunell is that even a blind man could have seen this coming, that's why it shouldn't come as such a great shock to anyone. Neither was this decision based on what happened in the course of the game against the Bears on Sunday. If you have listened to Gibbs closely he stated his decision was based on the overall situation, and much of that has to do with things we don't see therefore we can't comment on. I'm throughly convinced Gibbs decision to change QB'b was not all about Ramsey's performance in Sunday's game, hence we can forget about that Ramsey didn't have a fair chance senerio. Those of us famaliar with Gibbs know it's not just about how many passes you complete or for how many yards, it's about the ability to "lead" and manage a football game.

Let's rally around whoever our QB is because if we consider ourselves true fans, we rocognize the fact they're going to need our support. When George Allen was coach here I recall at one time him making the statement and I quote "When you have two QB's you don't any" It only serves to divide the team. I pray that our team is not as divided over this as many of our posters seem to be.
Very well said and 100% true!
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Old 09-16-2005, 04:00 PM   #63
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Re: Video of all of Ramsey's and Brunnell's passes against the Bears

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You're right. Every Ramsey basher has pointed to his TOs, but none of them has talked about Brunell's 9 TOs in 9 games last year. Why is this seen as a Ramsey problem? Brunell is guilty of the exact same thing.


Your right, the one pick we now know came because the reciever ran the wrong route and the second fumble should have been a 15 yard penalty.

Nobody is thinking about the future here! Campbell wont be ready for 2-4 years and Brunell who I have tremedous respect for does not have much left.
Patrick is in the stage of his career where he needs to play through his mistakes to get bettter. (He was starting to settle down and get comfortable in the pocket and build confidence.) There is no better team to do it with. We have the BEST defense in the league and a running game that is awesome if we dont have to face 8 men in the box 90% of the time.
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Old 09-16-2005, 04:21 PM   #64
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Re: Video of all of Ramsey's and Brunnell's passes against the Bears

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No reason????? Obviously you didn't own a TV last season!
I already said that our offense last year was much different than it is this year. I dont think its fair to write off brunell just based on last year's performance because our offense as whole needed a ton of improvement.

He did show all those traits that I mentioned in the preseason, didnt he? Why dont you think it can carry over into the regular season?
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I already said that our offense last year was much different than it is this year. I dont think its fair to write off brunell just based on last year's performance because our offense as whole needed a ton of improvement.

He did show all those traits that I mentioned in the preseason, didnt he? Why dont you think it can carry over into the regular season?
I think he can, hopefully... but last year he didn't.
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Let's just throw this out there..

Ramsey starts the game 1 for 4 for 4 yds, INT...

he then goes 5 for 7 for 101 yards (not bad AT ALL!) BUT...

if the bogus penalty on Cooley wasn't called it becomes 6 for 8 for 107 yds, TD. AND don't forget Portis drops a VERY catchable ball in there that would have been a 7 yarder which would have made him 7 for 8 for 114yds, TD after his first 4 attempts. I'd say that's damn good for ANY quarterback in the NFL in their first REAL action of the season after getting warmed-up (first 4 attempts).
That thought has crossed my mind as well. Ramsey Started off as a stinker like he had all preseason, but seemed to get better as he went along.

The key to all this thing is if Mark Brunell has his physical ability back. If he can throw the ball deep again, like he hinted at in the preseason with his play, and if he can move around and make plays while taking care of the football and make smart decisions then I would guaruntee we have a shot at the play offs.
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Very simple who did he do it against? 2nd string players in games that don't count, how was his pre-season last year? He won the job didn't he? And guess what he was horrible, I also didn't see anything against the bears to make me believe he's any different, 3 FG's, and 70 yds, I would like to know the last QB who threw for less than 100 yds in 5 of his last 6 games as Brunell has? I will even let you inc. rookies anyone you please, my guess is you might find a candidate in Boller and that's it.
maybe in the combined awfulness of the bears offense over the last years?
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