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Old 09-15-2005, 05:18 PM   #1
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Check out this article:

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=10335

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Old 09-15-2005, 05:28 PM   #2
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Great find, great article.
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Old 09-15-2005, 05:28 PM   #3
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Good read!!! All we can do is trust Gibbs and cheer our heads off at every home game regardless of who our QB is!!!
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Old 09-15-2005, 05:43 PM   #4
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This was an excellent article....not a darn thing wrong with it...
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Old 09-15-2005, 08:04 PM   #5
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I understand the article, but it has a huge flaw. You have to understand why fans are disgusted. Its not that everyone that's pulling for ramsey is an idiot or ignorant of facts and stats, thats total bullshit. We've all been redskins fans for a while and seen this exact thing happen so many times I couldn't tell you all the starting QB's we've had in the last 15 years. Having said that I can tell you how many we've had that were successful with us. None. Even though some have had success elsewhere, and some are real estate agents and bluegrass/gospel singers. None have had success here. If Mark Brunell can pull it off, I'll eat my hat, but until then, I'm one of the guys who has a knot in my stomach.

This isn't deja vu.
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Old 09-15-2005, 08:59 PM   #6
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I understand the article, but it has a huge flaw. You have to understand why fans are disgusted. Its not that everyone that's pulling for ramsey is an idiot or ignorant of facts and stats, thats total bullshit. We've all been redskins fans for a while and seen this exact thing happen so many times I couldn't tell you all the starting QB's we've had in the last 15 years. Having said that I can tell you how many we've had that were successful with us. None. Even though some have had success elsewhere, and some are real estate agents and bluegrass/gospel singers. None have had success here. If Mark Brunell can pull it off, I'll eat my hat, but until then, I'm one of the guys who has a knot in my stomach.

This isn't deja vu.

Personally, I think it's a great article that really sums everything up in a nut shell. I think his article leaned more toward those "fans" who insist Gibbs doesn't know what he's doing. I suppose that's because they have only been able to witness other 'Skins coachs who didn't know how to win championship or even make the playoffs. If Jimmy Johnson or Bill Walsh had been hired other than Joe Gibbs, I would have had the same faith in them as well for similar reasons.
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Old 09-15-2005, 09:17 PM   #7
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I really agree with the author when he said Gibbs gave PR the Starting job to instill "Swagger" in PR.

It never developed.

He still looked as trepidatious as a teenage boy encountering his first bra strap!

I think many QB's who left and were successful elsewhere weren't given enough time.

For Pete's sake, isn't four years enough?

All I know, is that sitting in my seats on Sunday, A whole lot of people cheered when Brunell went in.

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Old 09-15-2005, 09:40 PM   #8
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I understand the article, but it has a huge flaw. You have to understand why fans are disgusted. Its not that everyone that's pulling for ramsey is an idiot or ignorant of facts and stats, thats total bullshit. We've all been redskins fans for a while and seen this exact thing happen so many times I couldn't tell you all the starting QB's we've had in the last 15 years. Having said that I can tell you how many we've had that were successful with us. None. Even though some have had success elsewhere, and some are real estate agents and bluegrass/gospel singers. None have had success here. If Mark Brunell can pull it off, I'll eat my hat, but until then, I'm one of the guys who has a knot in my stomach.

This isn't deja vu.
Do you think If JG was around during those 15 years we would have had issues at the QB position? Based on his track record it is safe to say no.

So, now that he is here, why are you worried? He is just 15 years late, thats all, sit back, give the man time, and let him do his thing.
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Old 09-15-2005, 09:45 PM   #9
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How about this, what happened last year with Brunell was last year. The guy is a much smarter qb than Ramsey is now. I always thought that Brunell was like Favre but left handed. I don't want to lose this game 31-28 and have people say that "well atleast he scored points." Just WIN!!!!!!! I can't take this not making the playoffs stuff. What we as fans need to do is rally around our qb and our TEAM and will them to victory. I know a little faith can't hurt either. I think that coach Gibbs is better judge of talent then all of us. Hell, he has forgotten more football then all of us. And wouldn't this be a nice little ruse that that coach Gibbs is using to try to have dallas think that our qb and offense is so much turmoil. Just give Brunell a second chance to make us believe that he is the man. Just WIN DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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even with dismissing last year, that doesn't mean it never happened. Definately agree on the just win part though
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Also, another thing I noticed when I viewed the tape of Bears game was when Cooley caught that pass supposedly just short of a touchdown. Well, when he caught it his feet were in the endzone but his momentum took him out. Again his feet were in when he caught the ball but, does the ball have to cross the goal line too? It looks like T.D. to me.
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Also, another thing I noticed when I viewed the tape of Bears game was when Cooley caught that pass supposedly just short of a touchdown. Well, when he caught it his feet were in the endzone but his momentum took him out. Again his feet were in when he caught the ball but, does the ball have to cross the goal line too? It looks like T.D. to me.
the ball has to break the plane... cooley was in the end zone waiting, but brunell underthrew him (pretty badly for such a short throw) and so he had to run back a bit to grab it.
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Old 09-15-2005, 10:12 PM   #13
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the fan articles still seem too long and rambling, but the content in this one is a couple steps up from the last ones at least.
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Old 09-15-2005, 10:17 PM   #14
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I think Brunell has good smarts, ability, and mobility but, I just wish he had more heart maybe we will see it on Monday night.
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I want to see the fans and team rally around Brunnel...

But I really want to see our defense take over the game and hand Dallas thier butts!
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