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Old 09-20-2005, 09:38 AM   #1
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Realistic "State of the Skins"

Let's take off the burgundy and gold glasses and look at both the good and bad of last night's game:

GOOD - Brunnel's two passes to Moss for TD's
BAD - All of his other passes

GOOD - Defensive playcalling (albeit more conservative than normal)
BAD - Offensive playcalling was more vanilla than Mr. Ice himself - the two long TD's were out of necessity instead of plan. The theme of the first 55 minutes was "Please, please don't f*ck it up Brunell!!" when it should have been "I can't wait for Brunell to f*ckin' light it up, baby!"

GOOD - Sean Taylor's hit on Crayton at the end of the game. Awesome!
BAD - Sean Taylor's coverage for most of the game. While I still think Taylor has the potential to be a beast in the NFL, I have to be honest about the fact that he is nowhere near the neighborhood of Roy Williams, Ed Reed or even Mike Brown in terms of dominating a game. Not close.

GOOD - James Thrash always seems to be there when you need him on 3rd down or in ST coverage - Mr. Reliable.
BAD - Either Taylor Jacobs is a really, really unlucky guy, or this guy is made of paper mache. It seems that his after-the-catch celebration is to get in the fetal postition and suck his thumb. How much longer can we wait for the training room's "Customer of the Year" to make a play for us? Answer - not much longer...

GOOD - TEAM defense
BAD - You are nutzo if you think the defense is better off w/o Lavar in the lineup. Where the hell was he? Didn't hear Carlos Rogers name called all game either (although I saw him in the game at least). These guys are gamechangers, supposedly. We tallied NO sacks and NO turnovers. Did you see Roy Williams last night - he was everywhere. We need some of that. Getting our playmakers in the game will help. Don't worry, G-Williams will still have them playing like a team.

GOOD - A VERY gratifying win AT Dallas ON Monday Night. In the same manner that they usually beat us.
BAD - Undoubtedly, the press will say we "got lucky" and beat a better Dallas team (although they were up 2-0 on turnovers and still lost). They'll say Brunell was shaky and the offense looked lost. And that's fine. Let them talk. Do you know what will shut up the doubters? More winning. That's it. So let's not spend the next two weeks crying about how unfair the press is after our "big win" - let's just keep winning and smiling.

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Old 09-20-2005, 09:41 AM   #2
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seems like a reasonable assessment except for saying that Roy Williams is better than ST. he got beat 2x down the field vs. ST's one. i've always seen RW as just another linebacker playing safety whereas i think ST's coverage is at least mediocre and will improve
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Re: Realistic "State of the Skins"

[QUOTE=Ade Jimoh Fan Club]Let's take off the burgundy and gold glasses and look at both the good and bad of last night's game:

GOOD - Brunnel's two passes to Moss for TD's
BAD - All of his other passes


I disagree with Brunell having only 2 good passes. I distinctly remember moss and patten each dropping a pass that was right between the numbers.
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Old 09-20-2005, 09:44 AM   #4
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The skins looked pretty bad for 56 mins of this game but after 60 they were looking good. I dont think the 'state of the skins' has changed much with this win because except for 2 big plays this was pretty much the same pathetic O we saw last week. Hopefully those big plays will ignite the O and give them the confidence they need to get rolling.

Bottom line is the skins are 2-0 and thats as good as a team can be right now.
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Old 09-20-2005, 10:22 AM   #5
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I'll add 2 things for the discussion:

1. Good-- Robert Royal. Where the hell did he come from?
2. Great-- Marcus Washington. He has taken over LaVar as the face of the defense.
3. Poor-- Special teams. Did anyone else have a pit in their stomach when Dallas took the kickoff back to like the 40 at the end of the game? The rest of the ST play wasn't very good either.
All good points. Special Teams has been very "ho-hum" so far this year. At least we didn't fumble a return this week!

Marcus Washington is playing great - like you said. The other guy who was just dominating last night was our other pickup from last year - Cornelious Griffin. He was a steal.

Royal caught some balls - but I think that's more a factor of the Skins "dump off" offense. I think Gibbs was trying to set a record for average 1 yard per catch.
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Old 09-20-2005, 10:26 AM   #6
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AJFC -

I'd say Taylor's misplays were a function of the conservative defnsive plan - a plan that tightened up dramatically once the team got beat on the flea flicker. Standard Williams blitz downs (3rd and long, etc) were seeing four-man rushes after that.
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I'll add 2 things for the discussion:

1. Good-- Robert Royal. Where the hell did he come from?

and where was Cooley? think he only caught one pass. did only Patrick keep track of him on the field?
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Hey guys, everyone still seems to slam Brunell, but you know what, he looked a hell of a lot better than Culpepper and Harrington this week. How would you like to be a Vikings fan or a Lions fan with those QB performances this week! YUCK! There is a lot of really BAD QB play in the league and while Brunell threw a pick and got sacked 5 times last night, he won the game, which was more than Bledsoe could say! The skins just need to discover what they do well. Man this win feels good. I know I have bags under my eyes today at work from staying up so late. BUT WHO CARES!!
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If you don't believe a lot has changed because of this victory, then you still don't believe in Joe Gibbs. The deep pass is what we've all been calling for and when we see it, we still can't believe it happened. Listen, this game will open up the playbook because now we now no one can stay with Moss. This guy is fast and can carry the ball the distance. Bottom line, it also will open up for Portis who has run into an eight-man box for most of the night. Just admit it, if this were Ramsey with the same results, you would be talking about how tough he is and how he deserves....blah, blah, blah.
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Let's take off the burgundy and gold glasses and look at both the good and bad of last night's game:

GOOD - Brunnel's two passes to Moss for TD's
BAD - All of his other passes
yeah alot of passes were off the mark but he seemed to amkke good decisions on them anyways.
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GOOD - Defensive playcalling (albeit more conservative than normal)
BAD - Offensive playcalling was more vanilla than Mr. Ice himself - the two long TD's were out of necessity instead of plan. The theme of the first 55 minutes was "Please, please don't f*ck it up Brunell!!" when it should have been "I can't wait for Brunell to f*ckin' light it up, baby!"
yeah we have been way too conservation again so far this year.
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GOOD - Sean Taylor's hit on Crayton at the end of the game. Awesome!
BAD - Sean Taylor's coverage for most of the game. While I still think Taylor has the potential to be a beast in the NFL, I have to be honest about the fact that he is nowhere near the neighborhood of Roy Williams, Ed Reed or even Mike Brown in terms of dominating a game. Not close.
you're out of your mind. Taylor's coverage was fine. He blew one coverage on a trick play where he actually slipped trying to get back. If you ever state that Taylor is not in the same class as MIke Brown I might have to poke my eye out after reading it again. Now Reed and Williams are the elite group and I'd say Taylor DID doiminate much the same way they do. He is right there with them in my mind.
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GOOD - James Thrash always seems to be there when you need him on 3rd down or in ST coverage - Mr. Reliable.
BAD - Either Taylor Jacobs is a really, really unlucky guy, or this guy is made of paper mache. It seems that his after-the-catch celebration is to get in the fetal postition and suck his thumb. How much longer can we wait for the training room's "Customer of the Year" to make a play for us? Answer - not much longer...
no kidding.
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GOOD - TEAM defense
BAD - You are nutzo if you think the defense is better off w/o Lavar in the lineup. Where the hell was he? Didn't hear Carlos Rogers name called all game either (although I saw him in the game at least). These guys are gamechangers, supposedly. We tallied NO sacks and NO turnovers. Did you see Roy Williams last night - he was everywhere. We need some of that. Getting our playmakers in the game will help. Don't worry, G-Williams will still have them playing like a team.
results baby are all that count. they bring the results each week. some turnovers would be nice though.
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GOOD - A VERY gratifying win AT Dallas ON Monday Night. In the same manner that they usually beat us.
BAD - Undoubtedly, the press will say we "got lucky" and beat a better Dallas team (although they were up 2-0 on turnovers and still lost). They'll say Brunell was shaky and the offense looked lost. And that's fine. Let them talk. Do you know what will shut up the doubters? More winning. That's it. So let's not spend the next two weeks crying about how unfair the press is after our "big win" - let's just keep winning and smiling.
Both of those are good. I'd rather be underestimated.
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Old 09-20-2005, 10:54 AM   #11
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Like I said on the thread asking what the score would be. JUST ONE POINT was all I was asking for. I think this may be the spark that our O needed. Lets not harp on the negatives lets take this victory and just enjoy it for a couple of days.
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Im not going to argue with anyone today. We won, we beat those bastards who had the audacity to schedule their ring ceremony during our game because they have owned us in recent years! I really don't care how we look the rest of the year! I don't think we are a playoff team, but like I said, right now I just don't care.
I agree. But on a lighter note. We really watched the Redskins score three touchdowns in 2:37 seconds. I guess the Referees didn't want the defense to hurt their feelings. Sean Taylor landed the biggest hit and turnover of the week and Walt Harris picks it up. What do we hear, an incomplete pass. Get the hell out of hear. The real score would be 21-13. Man f$%k the Cowboys.
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I guess the Referees didn't want the defense to hurt their feelings. Sean Taylor landed the biggest hit and turnover of the week and Walt Harris picks it up. What do we hear, an incomplete pass. Get the hell out of hear. The real score would be 21-13. Man f$%k the Cowboys.
I hear you! It seems like the Cowbitches get at least one bogus call like that every time we play them. Every time. Under 2 Min's - that should have at least been reviewed.
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Before this game I wrote a thread about getting over the hump. Last night I think the skins might have done it. It only takes a little bit, and BOOM! We got a win in dallas. The Cowboys treated this game like a homecomming. So they deserved that 4rth quarter asswhooping. Brunnel looked liked the old brunnel in jacksonville before the injruy. If we can build on that and our offense has more confidence going agianst Seattle we will be a serious threat to everyone in the NFC East.
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Old 09-20-2005, 11:08 AM   #15
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i'd like to add another good to mark brunell's performance. he threw three good passes, two were for tds, and the other was a 41 yarder on third and 2.

bad: where's lavar, i really think he could've helped us in the turnover department last night.
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