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Old 04-13-2004, 02:46 PM   #1
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D-Line help without trading down

I wonder how much cap room we are going to have, once whoever gets cut, to be able to pick up players after April 14th and June 1st?

A player that ive kept my sight on is Ogunleye. Hes going to be seeking trade offers after April 14th. He wants a big pay check but that never bothers me with Snyder, Snyder will find a way to make him count for nothing for three years then rework his deal. The Dolphins are waiting to see if they can get a first and third for him but no one will do that. Any thoughts on him?

The other main player ive been watching is Tony Brackens. Im not sure how much money he wants, I think hes just tired of teh Jaguars FO. Adding him to our D-Line might be enough to get the type of pressure we are looking for. C.Griffen is an amazing run stuffer but doesnt see the QB much, mabye with another big guy next to him they can ge the pressure together.

I really want to draft Sean Taylor so ive been tryign to see what D-line help will be available without drafting one by trading down. Let me know what you think.
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Old 04-13-2004, 05:07 PM   #2
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We should pick up DT gilbert brown. he was cut by the packers, and is a force as a run stopper. hes huge, tough (he played through what should have been a season ending injury in the preseason), and should come cheap. that would help solve a moajor problem area in the middle. Chad Eaton is also available...thres still solid talent out there
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Old 04-13-2004, 05:32 PM   #3
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Thats why I dont think we should trade down. I think we should get vetern dline help and draft the elite player, taylor.
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Old 04-13-2004, 06:14 PM   #4
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Nobody else thinks we should get d-line help through freeagency instead of the draft?
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Old 04-13-2004, 06:27 PM   #5
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I'M WITH YOU ON THAT ONE SKINSnCANES.DRAFT THE BEST AND SUPPLEMENT WITH FREE AGENCY.OUR 5TH ROUNDER COULD TURN OUT TO BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR 1ST.
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Old 04-13-2004, 06:30 PM   #6
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we'll see. I hope Cerrato did a better job of scouting this year and we can get a gem in the later rounds.
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I like the idea of either brown or brackens (maybe both) and drafting Taylor. Anyone know of any other decent quality d-lineman who may get cut June 1st?
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Old 04-13-2004, 08:40 PM   #8
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There are going to be tons of rumors about what the Skins might do, and knowing the Skins anythign is possible. But dont rule out us just drafting at five and picking up free agents. Everyone says Snyder will do crazy things, but his file dictates that he wont do crazy things in the draft and he will go after more vets, which is Gibbs way of doing things as well.
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Gilbert Brown may have reached the end of the line. He did not play well last year and then he got hurt and basically never got back to the mediocre level he had established in the first part of the season. If I were to sign him, there would be no signing bonus that I would likely have to eat.

Chad Eaton can still play. I suspect he will be seeking some up front cash in his deal.

Tony Brackens is an interesting case. Some people think he is a wonderful player with a non-stop motor and top-shelf physical skills. Other people see him as a "me-first pain-in-the-ass". I have never met Mr. Brackens so I can't tell you which assessment is closer to the correct one.

There are good free agents out there waiting to be signed but none of them will want to come for league minimum so there will need to be some cap room adjustments to get them.
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Old 04-14-2004, 01:24 PM   #10
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Ogunleye is an awesome DE, but he won't be cut by the Phins anytime soon. I thought earlier the Skins would go after him, but the price tag since he is a restricted FA is too much. If the Phins drop the price, say a 1st rounder next year, it would clearly give us a guy who can provide 15+ sacks year in/out...
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He got a lot of his sacks because of who was lined up on the other side, in Jason Taylor. But he was still productive and should be able to perform. He would be a big upgrade on our dline no matter what, and if anything would help our lbs get more pressure.
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Ogunleye would be great because then we could move P.Daniels to DT. I still think we should draft Taylor, because there is no DT in the draft that really seems to be an impact player. Gilbert Brown could come cheap and just having him in the middle is enough. He's huge and still has a couple of years under his belt as long as he stays healthy.

Bottom line is, we can't pass up on a guy like Taylor in the draft.
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Old 04-14-2004, 03:12 PM   #13
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Yea I agree. We just need a solid dline that will hold its own and create some pressure. If we have big guys that stop the run then they are forced to pass with Taylor learking around, and id be happy with that scenerio.
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Old 04-14-2004, 03:17 PM   #14
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Can we trade Dave Fiore for picks? I know he doesn't have that much value since he was injured all season, but he is a proven lineman.

I think we can pick up a decent DT in the second or third round, that's if we trade someone for a pick.
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Old 04-14-2004, 03:24 PM   #15
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Dave wouldnt net us much, he hasnt played in two years. When we picked him up he was coming off an injury. BUT I wouldnt mind getting rid of him becuase he isnt someone we've had for years that goes against us trying to build a team.
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