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Old 09-21-2005, 09:39 AM   #1
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Im a bit worried about the line. Did dallas have a good D-line or is ours bad. Six sacks is unaceptable. Glover manhandled Rabach. Anybody else notice this?
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:46 AM   #2
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Re: O line

wow, did glover put a number on Rabach?

Parcells coach team are good, I mean, I'm not surprised they got to us, 5 plus sacks is disturbing though
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:53 AM   #3
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5 sacks is never a good thing, but yes, Dallas does have a great d-line and they are very deep and physical.

I think they're going to give a lot of offensive lines trouble this year.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:58 AM   #4
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Re: O line

I'm happy with Samuels though - a great last ditch effort to keep Ware from getting to Brunell on the 70yd TD pass. And of course, with Jansen playing through injury. R. Thomas is always solid, but even he got called for a false start the other night (can't remember if Thomas has ever been offsides as a redskin before that time).

The guy who really needs to step it up is Dockery.
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:07 AM   #5
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Re: O line

I saw Rabach get absolutely blown up on a few occasions where it looked like he was going to get pushed back into Brunell before he even finished dropping back.

I haven't gone back and watched the game yet again though, so I can't commment on Dockery.

Seemed like a lot of the pressure came on blitzes, but then again they did manage to bring heat with just their front line, and that was a concern.

I agree, Samuels did a great job, he's back in a big way.
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:23 AM   #6
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Re: O line

I was a little concerned about or protection as well. Dallas rotated their D line the entire game which had to help with temps at around 95 degrees.
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:28 AM   #7
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I'm sure Bugel hasn't slept since
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:29 AM   #8
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Honestly I felt like most of their pressure came on LB stunts and safety blitzes. They did get 2.5 sack from their line (Ellis-1, Canty-1, Spears-.5) but the rest came from LBs. I know on at least two that they were coverage sacks where brunell had no where to throw the ball and just took the sack. Rabach got manhandled a little but Glover was crazy quick off the snap a bunch of times and that is real difficult to block when you're snapping and getting blown up at the same time. All in all I felt like with the quality of their front 7 and the amount of gimmicks used to pressure the QB they held up good enough. I was more concerned with out inability to pressure Bledsoe even a little bit with our front 4. We need Arrington back 100% to take some pressure of those front 4.
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:36 AM   #9
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I said it before if you look at the game it is not the abilities of our offense poor performance more than it was penalties that killed drives and the Cowboys just got after us and put us in a lot of 3rd and longs with sacks just by looking at the play-by-play. We would have been in position on nearly every possesion to convert 3rd and short if it was not for several holding penalties and sacks. If we can cut those out the personnel are capable to move us down the field to include Brunell. The O line did play a major part in us not sustaining drives in this game rather than the QB or playcalling. Not to mention several moves/scrambles by Brunell to avoid having 10 sacks and making big plays. Seeing the team overcome and pick up the rush to make the key plays does show promise and if we continue to get better to make plays during the blitz teams will cut back on them, but right now that is what teams are going to do to stop us.
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:55 AM   #10
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To be honest, I thought on quite a few of Brunells sacks, that he had adequate time. I counted once that he had 6 seconds, which lets face it, is a lightyear of time in the NFL. Now while hte line didnt play great, I dont think they played " 6 sacks " bad. Ya know?
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To be honest, I thought on quite a few of Brunells sacks, that he had adequate time. I counted once that he had 6 seconds, which lets face it, is a lightyear of time in the NFL. Now while hte line didnt play great, I dont think they played " 6 sacks " bad. Ya know?
You have to factor in the coverage on some of sacks those too.
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Old 09-21-2005, 11:25 AM   #12
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How do we stop the Blitzes?

ultimately, blitzing is what really has made our offense "dink and dunk".

Brunell is much more ball conscious and ends up checking down quick or scrambling to beat the rush. I think Ramsey literally doesn't care about the rush and is just dying to throw it downfield, hence the stigma of holding it too long and the absolute laser beams he throws when they do come out.

regardless, i think it's safe to say the modern day NFL blitz is what's hardest for Joe Gibbs to deal with this time around and what ran Spurrier out of town.

How do we stop it? Gibbs already tried 'max protect' and it didn't work, is it really a personnel issue (as glanced upon in the O Line thread), is our line really not as good as we say they are? our TE's not good at blocking? i don't think Clinton Portis could block one iota better at his current size.

is a true possession receiver a possible cure? i thought Cooley was going to play that role, but he was barely in Brunell's sights in Dallas. Cooley can't run those quick inside slants anyway and our WRs are too small for it. (this was one thing Coles was very good for).

if we're going to take more shots at Moss and Patten downfield, what can we do to get the QB some time? while i appreciate the ability, Brunell's scrambling isn't what it used to be and he really shouldn't have to do it or wait until fourth quarter to wait for the defense to play lazy.
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Old 09-21-2005, 11:28 AM   #13
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oops i just started a Blitz thread, but this one really took off. sorry, Merge away
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You have to factor in the coverage on some of sacks those too.
Yeah, to me it looked like there was really no one open. One time they pointed that out actually. However, on a full-on blitz then someone must have been left open right? Or at the least in one-on-one coverage.
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Old 09-21-2005, 11:34 AM   #15
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You have to factor in the coverage on some of sacks those too.
Oh absolutley. It wasent a knock on Brunell as much as it was a defending of the oline.
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