Another Possible Trade Scenario.

SKINSnCANES · 04-13-2004, 09:21 PM

Sorry Matty, the next two weeks your going to have tons of duplicate threads that all seem different becuase its a different rumor, but all about trade scenerios.

hank64 · 04-13-2004, 09:40 PM

Trade Arington??? What's next, getting rid of all-star Ade Jimoh?

Beemnseven · 04-13-2004, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Showtime

...but he's undisciplined and cannot diagnose plays like elite linebackers do (Ray Lewis, Derrick Brooks, Takeo Spikes, etc . . .), which limits his effectiveness against savy playcalls. For all that speed, why can't he ONCE stop McNabb from scrambling on a key 3rd down??

You know what? I wholeheartedly agree with these statements. As phenomenal a player Lavar Arrington is, there are several other linebackers in the league right now who are playing better, and have proved much more. Lewis, Brooks, Urlacher, just to name a few.

And Showtime is right! When was the last time Arrington stopped McNabb on a crucial 3rd down conversion? The last truly game changing play he's made was the sack of Kurt Warner in the Rams game back in the '02 season.

While I don't agree we should trade Arrington, I was hoping for much more when we drafted him. One game-breaking play in two years is a little lacking for a player everyone talks about like he's some sort of god.

Still, I'd like to see what he can do in a Gregg Williams defense.

SKINSnCANES · 04-13-2004, 11:49 PM

I think Lavar has always changed how defenses play us, hes in on every play. Hes ended QBs careers, and took our Brett Farve the week before he was goign to break the durability streak or something liek that. The play against the Rams had a lot to do with Gardner as well, not to take away from Lavar. I think the new coaching staff will get more out of him, he seems to get down easy and the extra motivation this year should help him become more of a leader. Trotter was always the captain and leader out there, im not sure if I agreed with that for any reason other than the fact he was the middle LB

BrudLee · 04-14-2004, 07:08 AM

Even if I could agree with you on this, Daseal, The recent restructuring makes it highly unlikely. I'm sure CrazyCanuck will back me on this, but with Lavar's signing bonuses, it'd be difficult to field a 53-man roster with the cap hit after this departure.

My feeling though is that unless you plan on retiring someone's jersey, they aren't untouchable. Since the Redkins can't buy a copy of Lavar's jersey to retire, he can leave.

Daseal · 04-14-2004, 07:10 AM

Good point, I totally forgot about the size of his signing/roster bonus's. I must say I don't understand the cap very well, maybe I can get a FO job somewhere.

kingerock · 04-14-2004, 09:00 AM

Lavar + 5 coaches in 6 seasons = great LB without stability

Lavar + Joe Gibbs + Gregg Williams = great LB with solid coaching

Lets get through the end of this season and talk Arrington trade.

BleedBurgundy · 04-14-2004, 09:02 AM

I may be a son of a bitch for saying this but- I will always be an Arrington fan because he ended that bastard Troy Aikman's career. We all know he was one hit away, and I was so happy that one hit came from a Redskin. Wow, my conscience feels clear, thanks for letting me share. That said, Pros and Cons aside, this guy is a Redskin. A crazy, f_cked up, mildly retarded one, but still a Redskin.

Mattyk · 04-14-2004, 11:37 AM

I would like to see LaVar settle in with one defensive coordinator and one system for a good 3-4 seasons. Maybe then we'll see him reach his full potential.

SKINSnCANES · 04-14-2004, 03:44 PM

Lavars not going anywhere, his cap hit would kill us and our d would suffer for it. We've built our defense around him. Everythign is about lavar. We got Washington so Lavar could play weekside. We need better dlinemen so lavar can get more pressure. We need two top flight corners so they can play man and we can blitz lavar. If we get Sean Taylor him and Lavar will be in on everyplay... I know its the time of the year when you talk about trades and rumors, but come guys, Lavar, Snyder already told us hes a Skin for life, and Lavar agress.

Daseal · 04-14-2004, 05:19 PM

Does LaVar agree? We'll see what happens when he's asked to restructure again. I wouldn't be suprised to see him traded before his career ends.

LaVar is a good player, but multiple coaches don't affect your personallity. I want him to step up as a TEAM LEADER before he makes the kind of money he's supposed to. People that get paid like that bring their team to new levels.

As I said, I don't know if I agree with trading him, but I also wouldn't be totally shocked if it happened. Not with the cap hits, but who knows later in his contract!

SKINSnCANES · 04-14-2004, 05:32 PM

hopefully he will become the player that he can be and will always be a skin and a leader

Daseal · 04-14-2004, 05:35 PM

I feel a lot of players look up to him, and I feel he lets them down horribly in the moral department.

arrington_QBkiller · 04-14-2004, 06:23 PM

lavar isn't going anywhere anytime soon, we need to draft taylor, a little more help on the Dline and the defense is solid and arrington will shine.....the screen name says it all

SKINSnCANES · 04-14-2004, 06:39 PM

With Taylor and mabye one or two more key dline we could have one of the top D's in the league. I hope with the better coaching that it happens this year.

04-13-2004, 09:21 PM	#16
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 31 Posts: 5,394	Sorry Matty, the next two weeks your going to have tons of duplicate threads that all seem different becuase its a different rumor, but all about trade scenerios. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-13-2004, 11:49 PM	#19
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 31 Posts: 5,394	I think Lavar has always changed how defenses play us, hes in on every play. Hes ended QBs careers, and took our Brett Farve the week before he was goign to break the durability streak or something liek that. The play against the Rams had a lot to do with Gardner as well, not to take away from Lavar. I think the new coaching staff will get more out of him, he seems to get down easy and the extra motivation this year should help him become more of a leader. Trotter was always the captain and leader out there, im not sure if I agreed with that for any reason other than the fact he was the middle LB __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-14-2004, 07:08 AM	#20
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Even if I could agree with you on this, Daseal, The recent restructuring makes it highly unlikely. I'm sure CrazyCanuck will back me on this, but with Lavar's signing bonuses, it'd be difficult to field a 53-man roster with the cap hit after this departure. My feeling though is that unless you plan on retiring someone's jersey, they aren't untouchable. Since the Redkins can't buy a copy of Lavar's jersey to retire, he can leave. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

04-14-2004, 03:44 PM	#25
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 31 Posts: 5,394	Lavars not going anywhere, his cap hit would kill us and our d would suffer for it. We've built our defense around him. Everythign is about lavar. We got Washington so Lavar could play weekside. We need better dlinemen so lavar can get more pressure. We need two top flight corners so they can play man and we can blitz lavar. If we get Sean Taylor him and Lavar will be in on everyplay... I know its the time of the year when you talk about trades and rumors, but come guys, Lavar, Snyder already told us hes a Skin for life, and Lavar agress. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-14-2004, 05:32 PM	#27
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 31 Posts: 5,394	hopefully he will become the player that he can be and will always be a skin and a leader __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-13-2004, 09:40 PM	#17
hank64 Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 63	Trade Arington??? What's next, getting rid of all-star Ade Jimoh?

04-14-2004, 07:10 AM	#21
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Good point, I totally forgot about the size of his signing/roster bonus's. I must say I don't understand the cap very well, maybe I can get a FO job somewhere.

04-14-2004, 09:00 AM	#22
kingerock Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Killeen, TX Age: 37 Posts: 360	Lavar + 5 coaches in 6 seasons = great LB without stability Lavar + Joe Gibbs + Gregg Williams = great LB with solid coaching Lets get through the end of this season and talk Arrington trade.

04-14-2004, 09:02 AM	#23
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,434	I may be a son of a bitch for saying this but- I will always be an Arrington fan because he ended that bastard Troy Aikman's career. We all know he was one hit away, and I was so happy that one hit came from a Redskin. Wow, my conscience feels clear, thanks for letting me share. That said, Pros and Cons aside, this guy is a Redskin. A crazy, f_cked up, mildly retarded one, but still a Redskin.

04-14-2004, 11:37 AM	#24
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,693	I would like to see LaVar settle in with one defensive coordinator and one system for a good 3-4 seasons. Maybe then we'll see him reach his full potential.

04-14-2004, 05:19 PM	#26
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Does LaVar agree? We'll see what happens when he's asked to restructure again. I wouldn't be suprised to see him traded before his career ends. LaVar is a good player, but multiple coaches don't affect your personallity. I want him to step up as a TEAM LEADER before he makes the kind of money he's supposed to. People that get paid like that bring their team to new levels. As I said, I don't know if I agree with trading him, but I also wouldn't be totally shocked if it happened. Not with the cap hits, but who knows later in his contract!

04-14-2004, 05:35 PM	#28
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	I feel a lot of players look up to him, and I feel he lets them down horribly in the moral department.

04-14-2004, 06:23 PM	#29
arrington_QBkiller Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Age: 32 Posts: 72	lavar isn't going anywhere anytime soon, we need to draft taylor, a little more help on the Dline and the defense is solid and arrington will shine.....the screen name says it all

04-14-2004, 06:39 PM	#30
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 31 Posts: 5,394	With Taylor and mabye one or two more key dline we could have one of the top D's in the league. I hope with the better coaching that it happens this year. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

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