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Old 10-05-2005, 02:58 AM   #31
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Re: Underdogs?

The home team automatically gets +3, so Denver would only be favored by 4 if the game were in DC.
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Old 10-05-2005, 07:17 AM   #32
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Re: Underdogs?

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offiss, many were saying Seattle was our first big test, but I guess that's just been explained away since they missed a FG and Holmgren made some questionable calls down the stretch.

I'm not arguing that Denver is better than Seattle, but Seattle isn't exactly a slouch either. They have one of the top ranked offenses and their D was ranked 8th coming into our game.

It's funny how fickle the media is week to week. After week 1 the Bears were bums, after week 2 they were on the rise again. After week 1 Dallas was headed to the playoffs, now they're headed back to the basement.

All the Skins can do is go out and beat the next team on the schedule, which they've done so far. I'm just wondering what excuses will pop up when we go on the road and beat Denver. Should be interesting.
Seattle is something like 1-30 in the eastern time zone so while they are a tougher team than Chicago they are not exactly world beaters when they go east. The bottom line is the skins have beaten 3 weak team which is a good thing because in the past few years the skins found a way to lose games that went down like Sunday's did. I just dont see a way to argue that the skins are one of the stronger teams in the nfl because they have not had a tough test yet. That will happen this week.
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Old 10-05-2005, 08:26 AM   #33
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Re: Underdogs?

There's room for more than one swami around here, offiss.

I'm putting the cart way before the horse and saying we'll steal this one on the road in Denver, and we still won't get much respect at 4-0. The majority of the media will still have plenty of excuses as to why we're now the worst 4-0 team in NFL history. If we lose and drop to 3-1, all the naysayers will pull out the "I told you so" takes as to why the Skins are beginning to slide back down to reality.

I really don't see the Skins gaining much respect until at least halfway through the season, if we're sitting there with at least 5 or 6 wins after 8 games, then I think some eyebrows will have been raised.
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:07 AM   #34
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Re: Underdogs?

I still say we beat a good Seattle team - this is a team, until we beat them, many thought would make noise in the AFC West.

I say the Skins have nothing to prove but to play their hearts out like they have all year, so far. Whether they win or lose, they've proven that they can now close out nail-biters. Now I'm not satisfied with a "moral" victory Sunday, but this is a quality that will take them into the playoffs. The blowouts will come, IMO, we're just learning how to win right now.

BTW, I sent a semi-nasty email to Vic Carruci?? from NFLnetwork.com. Their website had some commentary about the 4 undefeated teams in the NFL, but they had yet to update it with our most recent win v. Seattle. I let him have it!! I hope he responds.....him and that fat Lincoln Kennedy!!!
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:15 AM   #35
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I agree 12thMan.

I'm aware Seattle sucks on the road, but that doesn't discount they were still a quality opponent.

Seattle is a team that should win 8 or 9 games, possibly 10 if they play their cards right.

As for Dallas, I don't think they are a pushover either. I think they're also capable of winning 8 or 9 games.

I wouldn't say we've been truly tested yet, and I agree that Denver will be a great test, BUT I really wouldn't say we've played 3 weak teams either.
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:42 AM   #36
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Re: Underdogs?

The problem with the "quality of opponents" is that it's so easily twisted to meet the needs of the arguer.

The Bears may end up OK, but they aren't the team we thought they were. Why? They lost to the Redskins.

The Cowboys clearly still have some kinks to work out. Why? They lost to the Redskins.

The Seahawks need to restore some focus and fix their playcalling. Why? They lost to the Redskins.

IF the Redskins win in Denver, will the story be that they're 4-0, or that Denver had a breakdown of some sort. I mean, a Denver loss would have to be their own fault. They lost to the Redskins.
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Old 10-05-2005, 10:09 AM   #37
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I don't care if we score 10 or 30 points as long as the other team has one less point. I do not think our O will but up alot of points in the first half of the season. With that said if we keep improving every week our O sould be a force in the second half of the season and with our D that could realy be a tough combination for teams to deal with. Gibbs knows how to build on what he starts and we are starting to see that.
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Old 10-05-2005, 10:21 AM   #38
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IF the Redskins win in Denver, will the story be that they're 4-0, or that Denver had a breakdown of some sort. I mean, a Denver loss would have to be their own fault. They lost to the Redskins.
I definitely agree with the latter. The story will focus on how Denver lost, not how the Redskins won.
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Old 10-05-2005, 10:32 AM   #39
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Re: Underdogs?

The redskins CAN win in Denver, especially with the injuries they have. The X factor here is Jake Plummer. Which one shows up, the Peyton Manning clone or the Shane Matthews clone. You never know which Plummer will show up.

I think it is IMPERATIVE for us to take advantage of every chance to score we get. Even if that means getting over a two TD lead! What scares me is our collapse against the seahawks. Our defense was so soft underneath that they drove up and down the field, and really should have won that game. That was an easy FG that Josh Brown missed.
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Re: Underdogs?

BUT the Seahawks have a FAR better running game than the Broncos. Their receiving corps is better than the Broncos. Offensively, the Seahawks are far superior to the Broncos. The main thing is our offense putting some points on the board. We put up 17 or more, I think we win.
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Old 10-05-2005, 11:25 AM   #41
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Re: Underdogs?

A 47 yard FG isn't exactly a chip shot and certainly not easy.

Norwood's famous missed FG in the Super Bowl was also 47 yards, again not exactly a chip shot but people seem to always overlook this fact. It's not like he missed a 20 yarder.

Anything over 45 yards in my book is not an easy 3.
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Old 10-05-2005, 11:27 AM   #42
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BUT the Seahawks have a FAR better running game than the Broncos. Their receiving corps is better than the Broncos. Offensively, the Seahawks are far superior to the Broncos. The main thing is our offense putting some points on the board. We put up 17 or more, I think we win.
Denver is 3rd overall in rushing.

Seattle ranks 7th... right behind the Skins at #6.
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Old 10-05-2005, 12:34 PM   #43
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I did look at the stats, but it's one of those paper stats that won't translate very well when the Redskins play them. Anderson and Bell aren't exactly a couple of the top backs in the league. I really feel good about our chances against their offense. Their defense I AM worried about however.
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Old 10-05-2005, 12:39 PM   #44
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Gold and Wilson could pose problems for our o-line, they are very good blitzers. And that make shift D line is playing well right now. With Champ out of the line-up, we can exploit their secondary though.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:40 PM   #45
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Re: Underdogs?

Guys, the reason the Skins don't get any respect, is because Gibbs seems to be running a formula in the game that is not wide-open and exciting like the Bengals or the Colts. With Seattle it worked out great and would not have been a heart attack game had that INT not shown up late. Here is the gameplan: Seattle's O is good, so you run and pass and chew up the clock with long drives that lead to points, FG or TD. You play smart, don't turn it over and you play field position. On D you don't give up the big play, stop the run and get off the field on on 3rd down.. That methodical approach leads to close games which drive us fans crazy, but it works if you limit penalties and play smart. I mean I love the Raiders wide open go long to Randy Moss mentality, but they had like 15 penalties for 187 yards or something last week. You can't win playing like that. The bottom line is that the Skins are not exciting, so the media doesn't get excited about us either.
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