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Old 04-18-2004, 09:36 PM   #16
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They now have an elite receiver, but what have the 49ers done in the last few years with him?? Kearse is a great passrusher but not as solid against the run.. The main thing is there corners and linebackers will be suspect. They did pick up Dhani Jones, but still. If their running came doesnt prove its self, they dont have their three headed monster anymore (one is gone, the other coming off a big injury), then their passing game will suffer. I dont doubt that they will find ways to score but I think we can take them.
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Old 04-18-2004, 09:37 PM   #17
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How about Lavar Arrington meet Donovan McNabb. Then Donnocan McNabb, meet Troy Aikmen, you will be his broadcasting parter on the 'Lavar Ended Us' show.
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Old 04-18-2004, 10:38 PM   #18
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I don't think it's Ramsey's "job to lose" because that was before Gibbs and co. came to town. There's a whole new system to learn, so let the best man in an open competition win the job. Probably Brunell has the edge becuase he's better at reading NFL defenses, and Gibbs likes vets. I actually think that's as it should be. Ramsey got thrown into to the fire too quickly with Spurrier. Brunell first for a year, Ramsey the year after for the SB win.
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Old 04-18-2004, 11:57 PM   #19
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It may have been good to let Ramsey learn a little longer, but we didnt have any other choices at the time. We really had to run with Ramsey, we knew Danny boy or Shane wasnt going ot take us anywhere.
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Old 04-19-2004, 12:57 AM   #20
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I agree, but beating out Danny and Shane isn't enough to make it Ramsey's job (at least not yet!). We forget just how weak those guys were...
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Old 04-19-2004, 01:03 AM   #21
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Remember guys. They didn't give Mark the huge contract for him not to start. The job's his to lose, and barring injury, I don't think he will.
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Old 04-19-2004, 02:04 AM   #22
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Brunell did get injured last year. So either way dont count Ramsey out. We've got the depth we need to hopefully take it to the next level this year.
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Old 04-19-2004, 03:35 AM   #23
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I'm a ramsey fan and have been since they drafted him and gave him the same # jersey I'd gotten as a customized jersey a couple monthes before he was drafted. that being said Brunnel is the better all around qb right now. he's what, 35+ years old and still has better feet than ramsey. he's a proven leader, accurate thrower with an underrated throwing strength. at their respective points in their careers, brunnel has a better vision of the field than Ramsey as well. I think some of these will begin to shift ramsey's way under the teachings of brunnel and gibbs in the next year or so and that he may even go in to relieve Brunnel sometime this year and win the job back. but isn't this comforting to most of you guys that we can actually have a fight over the team having two starting-quality qbs? especially after the past few years. I think I saw we've had something like 7 starting qbs over the past 5 years or something terrible like that.
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Old 04-19-2004, 03:38 AM   #24
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Brunell did get injured last year. So either way dont count Ramsey out. We've got the depth we need to hopefully take it to the next level this year.
if I remember right it was his elbow(a laceration or something) and it was healed up 3 or 4 weeks after it happened. the injury was just an excuse for the Jaguars to have leftwich starting.
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Old 04-19-2004, 08:29 AM   #25
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I think Gibbs will give it to whoever he believes performs best at camp. With that said, if it's close, Gibbs will go with the veteran. And, as I think it will be a close competition, I think the job will go to Brunnell.

I think Ramsey sits this year and the first part of next. At some point, Brunnell is gonna get hurt (maybe later this year or early next) and Ramsey is going to come in and that will be the end or Brunnell's starting career - regardless of the money being paid. Ramsey has the tools and mentality to do the job well. The only question in my mind is whether or not his field vision and decision making will improve enough to take the next step.
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Old 04-19-2004, 10:24 AM   #26
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Having a rocket for an arm and being tough does not make you a great QB. Look at Drew Bledsoe. The Bills are looking to cut him. Bledsoe was replaced in New England by Tom Brady, a low round draft pick that doesn't have the arm strength that Bledsoe has. But Tom Brady is smart, can read defenses, senses the pass rush, can escape and is great at executing his offense. You do not have to throw the ball 100 yards to be great. The dump off pass is important too. Two super Bowl wins later, New England does not need a rocket armed QB.
Ramsey needs to develop under the eye of Gibbs, QB coach and Brunell. As soon as Ramsey learns to unload the pass sooner, improve his foot speed and be aware of the pass rush, he will be a star. Until then, he is not ready to take us to the SB.

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Old 04-19-2004, 12:28 PM   #27
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I agree with Offis. How is Brunell at all proven yet? He just sat out almost an entire season, and has had major injury problems. I think it should be a open competition, but as far as I'm concerned, I think Ramsey has the edge in pure physical ability, Brunell has an advantage in experiance. Ramsey has been in the league two years, he has learned alot so far. I dont think there is any reason to belive that Brunell will be better than Ramsey for this team, until he proves it in Camps and in the games.
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. Id still rather have Ramsey becausae hes been with us for two years now and I think learned a lot from Spurrier. The potential is there, I hope he gets the chance to show it.[/QUOTE]
What do you think SS taught him??? How to get sacked?? I think that Spurrier might have actually set him back!!! I love Ramsey but I don't know if he is ready to run Gibbs system. It's defiantly a luxury to have to quality QB's on our roster.
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Old 04-19-2004, 01:33 PM   #29
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Well, Brunell has won some NFL playoff games, he's seen a lot of defenses, and he's won a number of regular season games. He hasn't won a SB or a conference championship, but he's won in the NFL for a long time. That's not chopped liver. I think Ramsey is the QB of the future, but my bet is the future isn't for a season or so. Playing for Spurrier is like playing in college, except you get hit by NFL linemen. We need to see how Ramsey plays in Gibbs offense. I'm sure he'll do great, but my guess is the transition will be easier for Brunell becuase of his experience.

I actually think both QBs are quite similar in this respect: They're hard working, humble good guys, and together, they'll make up the best one-two QB duo in the league. Is there a better one-two? It's a great luxury, and it will be an incredible asset, especially late in the year. Remember, neither QB finished the year last season. We need both.
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Old 04-19-2004, 01:44 PM   #30
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We do need both. In the NFL as physical as it is a QB is one hit away from being injured. I like Ramsey, but if Brunell does better in camp he should be the man and vice versa. I think Ramsey will learn a lot from Brunell these next couple of years.
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