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Old 04-19-2004, 04:43 PM   #31
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Winslow can block. Hes been playing in a blocking position for three years now learning how to block. Ive seen WInslow deck linebackers week in and week out. He can also tackle, having a shitty QB that throws lots of picks allowed me to see Winslow level some players that just got picks. So mabye hed make a good special teams player to.
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Old 04-19-2004, 04:48 PM   #32
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Winslow can block. Hes been playing in a blocking position for three years now learning how to block. Ive seen WInslow deck linebackers week in and week out. He can also tackle, having a shitty QB that throws lots of picks allowed me to see Winslow level some players that just got picks. So mabye hed make a good special teams player to.
Winslow is a good blocker. But Winslow decks college players week in and week out. This is the NFL.
He is not going to come in and dominate someone like Lavar Arrington week in and week out. In fact he will probably get a rude awakening to blocking defensive ends and Linebacker in the NFL. He will have to adjust.
The best players Winslow has faced to date is probably in practice against the Miami defense. NFL defenses are even better.

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Old 04-19-2004, 04:55 PM   #33
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just saw irvin(curse his name) on the espn draft show say he saw williams run a 4.45 and a 4.51 against the wind and doesn't know where the reports about him running around a 4.6 r coming from.
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Old 04-19-2004, 05:00 PM   #34
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I saw Irvin say the same thing about M. Williams' 40 time. He also says he is the best WR coming out, better than Fitzgerald.

Now, I know Irvin is an idiot at times, but the guy was a pretty darn good player. At the least, he knows more football than anyone of us or some guys who have never played in the NFL.

I say pick Williams in the supplemental draft!!!
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Old 04-19-2004, 05:07 PM   #35
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I have always said Williams and Fitzgerald are the two best WR's and nearly got scalped by the other warpath folks when I said it. I am glad to hear someone else agrees with me about Williams.
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Old 04-19-2004, 06:18 PM   #36
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Everyone agreed that Williams and Fitzgerald were the two best receivers. It was going to be Fitzgerald and Williams not matter what, it was which Williams that was the issue. I dont know how you can say Mike has the best hands though, I havent seen a receiver with hands as good as Fitzgerald in a long long time. Mike is definitly a bigger more dominate guy, but Fitzgerald is a very gifted receiver. If mike is in the draft, and if he falls to the teens. Some team is going to get a heck of a steal with that pick.
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Old 04-19-2004, 08:51 PM   #37
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didn't williams catch that one touchdown pass with one hand and caught the ball by its nose? and i know i personally don't agree that mike williams and fitzgerald r the 2 best wrs in this draft but instead think its roy and mike williams. its not that i don't think fitzgerald isn't going to a very good if not great wr, the two williams' just have more intangibles for making plays after the catch especially roy willaims. i do think one sleeper almost no one seems to be talking about at wr is rashaun woods of oklahoma state univ..
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Old 04-19-2004, 09:05 PM   #38
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mike williams is definitely the shiz... that one handed catch was the best catch by any receiver in college last year (fitz's acrobatic catch where he almost seemed offbalance is a close second).

this guy is definitely going to succeed in the NFL- all three will imo. I just think everyone has different strenghts- roy is the fastest, fitz is the most ready, williams is the strongest. All of them can play and are ready to play in the L. In fact, look for another williams (reggie from UW) to do fairly well. I can't believe rashaun woods and lee evans are also in this draft- did anyone see that game where woods had like 6 or 7 scores???
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Old 04-19-2004, 09:43 PM   #39
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He is not going to come in and dominate someone like Lavar Arrington week in and week out.
He wouldn't have to, LaVar would over pursue the play.

I heard somewhere that Mike Williams only went to USC because it was the only school that wasn't going to force him into a TE / H-back position. I think he'd be great at that position. I'm not a big Mike Williams fan, but depending on who his agent is and how much up front cash he demands, I'd definitly think about taking him in the Supplemental draft. If he goes back to USC he'll be a top 1-2 pick next year. If nothing else he'd have huge trade value.
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Old 04-19-2004, 10:43 PM   #40
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He probably would be one of the elite receivers next year if he had stayed. I dont know about the USC thing. I didnt think he was even going to play football at first. Either way, hes a great receiver now. It would definitly be a big decision for anyteam to give up next years pick for him
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Old 04-20-2004, 12:37 AM   #41
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I can't believe rashaun woods and lee evans are also in this draft- did anyone see that game where woods had like 6 or 7 scores???

yeah i saw that game. he had 7 td receptions, 13 overall receptions for 233 that game. i don't care who the competion, if one wr is getting that many touches in the endzone, that's one hell of a game.
a lot of scouts seem to think he's one of if not the best route runner in the draft and he and fitzgerald are very similar in body control.
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Old 04-20-2004, 06:16 PM   #42
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I think the bigger thing that happened this week is New England getting Dilon. I think the Raiders thought they could get him. They really need a RB and they arn't going to get him with the 2nd pick. So they will be looking to trade down or maybe even trade away their pick if the deal is good enough.
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But the raiders have huggybear's son!
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Old 04-20-2004, 06:34 PM   #44
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lol, you see how this his father is? Someone needs to lay off the crack.
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Old 04-20-2004, 07:01 PM   #45
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OK, I don't know enough about Williams, but put it this way: If we traded Gardner for a proven TE or DE, picked up Taylor in the 1st round and drafted Williams in the supplemental, would we really be in that bad a shape? I think not. OK we sacrifice next years 1st, but we'd hopefully have a killer 1,2,3 punch at WR, a good TE/DE and a lethal safety. With the likelihood of Trotter going in a draft day trade, probably in combo to move one of out lower picks up, we may be able to scrape a 2nd rounder and get on of the good DL on offer.

May be a long shot, but we could complete the picture of next years starting roster by next week?!
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