My 1st anti-coaching thread

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Redskin

you guys act like we are getting destroyed in these games when they are all close down to the wire we have a good team here we are making stupid mistakes

Call me crazy but I would rather get blown out than lose games like this.. If we get blown out then that shows that our talent level isn't what our opponents is. The way we are losing games, playcalling, turnovers, penalties, means that we are beating ourselves. The coaches have to have some accountablity with that as do the players..

I don't think another coaching turnover is the answer, but I think they need to catch up with today's NFL or we will continue to be mired in the same disappointment that has been our existence for the past 14 years.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Call me crazy but I would rather get blown out than lose games like this.. If we get blown out then that shows that our talent level isn't what our opponents is. The way we are losing games, playcalling, turnovers, penalties, means that we are beating ourselves. The coaches have to have some accountablity with that as do the players..

I don't think another coaching turnover is the answer, but I think they need to catch up with today's NFL or we will continue to be mired in the same disappointment that has been our existence for the past 14 years.

Yeah, who cares if we stay close. A loss is a loss, and we now have more of those than we have wins. Hell, the Vikings are now ahead of us in the NFC.

[skinsguy]

Yep, a new coaching staff every season is definitely the key to success.

[Redskin]

maybe its the coaching staff keeping us close and we dont have great talent you ever think of that paintrain?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Bushead

Portis is suppose to be making the plays L.T. did today. That is my biggest dissapointment from the coaching staff. They are obviously not using him wisely.

I thought of this driving home today. It's what I've said all along: Portis has been a disappointment. We gave up Champ Bailey and a second round pick for Clinton Portis to do the type of things that L.T. did against us. He hasn't come close. Maybe last year the offensive line wasn't good enough, but with a couple of exceptions, the line is clearly better this time around -- while Portis is just plain average.

He had 3 yards per carry today. And I don't want to hear any crap about the Chargers having a good run-d. The reason we brought Portis in was to beat teams that have a good run-d.

[Bushead]

Every March, who doesn't look at the Redskins and say "wow , they have a bunch of talent! " I mean remeber the linebackers core of Trotter, Armstead, and Arrington. The Redskins have Clinton Portis, Santana Moss, Jansen , Samuels, Thomas, Sean Taylor, Washington, Lavar. I mean the list goes on and on and on. I've heard numerous people over the years talk about each and everyone of them being a GREAT talent.

It just never translates to wins. You have to blame the coaches when that happens. What about the Chicago Bears? Their defense is taking them to the playoffs, unlike the redskins last year.

[Twilbert07]

We all know what we really need: a new owner.

And that ain't gonna happen. I know Snyder is a big fan, but he really has screwed up this team with all his coaching changes and by meddling in personnel decisions. I know he's been more hands-off lately, but his actions during the first years as owner will take several years to undo.

[davy]

I thought this site was for knowledgeable fans not for bad losers.

[Twilbert07]

If you're referring to my post, I've watched every game since 1972 and have seen too much of the same over the past 10 years. How would you describe going 2-6 in the past eight games?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

We all know what we really need: a new owner.

And that ain't gonna happen. I know Snyder is a big fan, but he really has screwed up this team with all his coaching changes and by meddling in personnel decisions. I know he's been more hands-off lately, but his actions during the first years as owner will take several years to undo.

Which is it then? You way that the team is screwed up with the coaching changes, but earlier you said it's time for a youth movement on the coaching staff

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by davy

I thought this site was for knowledgeable fans not for bad losers.

All opinions are welcome. However, when posts become big and egregious personal attacks, we delete the posts and "observe" the offending poster. People can be disappointed and vent their disappointment. Only when it "crosses the line" do we mods take action.

See, Brunell2Moss.

[davy]

I wasn't referring to your post in particular, I'm just tired of all the knee jerk reactions every time we lose a game. Today's loss was not about play calling it was about execution. Their guys made plays when they had to, ours didn't.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Which is it then? You way that the team is screwed up with the coaching changes, but earlier you said it's time for a youth movement on the coaching staff

It's this way: I hated all the coaching changes during the past five or six years. Now we have a 65-year-old coach, who, even if he turns it around, will need to be replaced within a couple years. Let's hire someone in their 40s who will bring in a new enthusiasm. Living in Atlanta, I see the Falcons doing just that under Jim Mora, and they go to the playoffs while we go home.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

It's this way: I hated all the coaching changes during the past five or six years. Now we have a 65-year-old coach, who, even if he turns it around, will need to be replaced within a couple years. Let's hire someone in their 40s who will bring in a new enthusiasm. Living in Atlanta, I see the Falcons doing just that under Jim Mora, and they go to the playoffs while we go home.

Do you think it was a mistake for him to come back in the first place? Just curious

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Bushead

Every March, who doesn't look at the Redskins and say "wow , they have a bunch of talent! " I mean remeber the linebackers core of Trotter, Armstead, and Arrington. The Redskins have Clinton Portis, Santana Moss, Jansen , Samuels, Thomas, Sean Taylor, Washington, Lavar. I mean the list goes on and on and on. I've heard numerous people over the years talk about each and everyone of them being a GREAT talent.

It just never translates to wins. You have to blame the coaches when that happens. What about the Chicago Bears? Their defense is taking them to the playoffs, unlike the redskins last year.

I've tried to understand why all those big names never give us wins, too. Either they're not coached right, or they're just not that good. I know some may disagree and cringe at that remark, but what have they done for us?

Portis is overrated. Santana Moss can't do it all by himself. Sean Taylor is still young, at times too aggressive, and isn't a complete player yet. Marcus Washington is a legitimate star, but like Moss, one star player can't do it alone. LaVar Arrington has a big hit every game or so, but it's never enough.

I think it all starts with both lines. Thomas, Rabach, and Dockery are not dominant interior players. Samuels struggles against top notch defenders, and is otherwise just good enough, but he's no Jim Lachey. Jansen is solid, and he is simply the best player lined up with players who are not as good.

The defensive line is terrible, and will be that way as long as this team continues to neglect it.