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Old 12-01-2005, 12:26 PM   #61
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Re: Thoughts on Ramsey and Brunell...

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Right, Brunell is afraid to throw deep, it has nothing to do with the way the defenses are playing us now, keeping the safeties over the top to not allow the deep stuff.

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well then lets see that great offensive genius mind that i know gibbs has ..i remember gibbs going in at half time and countering anything the defenses were doing ...i havent seen that this time around
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well then lets see that great offensive genius mind that i know gibbs has ..i remember gibbs going in at half time and countering anything the defenses were doing ...i havent seen that this time around
I thought the offensive struggles were Brunell's fault?

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I thought the offensive struggles were Brunell's fault?

well ur saying it was the defenses the way there were playing ...so i'm responding to that!!!
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matty my reply has nothing to do with mark brunell,and everything to do with p ramsey.the truth of the matter is that #8 is 35 years old and neither one of our backups has much experience.that and the fact that both ramsey and cambell are about as mobile as a rock.with the way brunell played last year,lord knows if we will see that side of him again,but if we do,someone had better be ready.for some reason the coaches dont have any faith in ramsey.and dont give me that "its what they are seeing in practice"crap because im sure mark brunell wasnt sucking in practice last year and we all know what the results of last year were.the facts are,and i love coach gibbs to death but..brunell shouldve been yanked earlier to see if ramsey has a place on the redskins,or in that instance,in the nfl
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Re: Thoughts on Ramsey and Brunell...

Brunell hasnt had any great long throws since week 3 against Dallas. When was the last time you saw Moss or anyone for that matter catch one of Brunell's passes in stride? and then go for a touchdown? Great QB's can "thread the needle" and are able to throw into double coverage, he can't or won't for some reason. Great! Brunell doesnt have many pix this season, but that doesnt often times happen when you throw the ball 10-15 yards, or do a WR screen, thats where all of his passes are going. I would much rather have a QB with a future (Ramsey) back there willing to throw the long ball, and maybe get a pic, than Brunell who when the game is on the line prefers to take a sack or throw it out of bounds. Brunell has showed sparks of greatness while with the Skins, but so has Ramsey, he may throw pics, but he doesnt fumble every time he gets sacked. Give him a shot!
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matty my reply has nothing to do with mark brunell,and everything to do with p ramsey.the truth of the matter is that #8 is 35 years old and neither one of our backups has much experience.that and the fact that both ramsey and cambell are about as mobile as a rock.with the way brunell played last year,lord knows if we will see that side of him again,but if we do,someone had better be ready.for some reason the coaches dont have any faith in ramsey.and dont give me that "its what they are seeing in practice"crap because im sure mark brunell wasnt sucking in practice last year and we all know what the results of last year were.the facts are,and i love coach gibbs to death but..brunell shouldve been yanked earlier to see if ramsey has a place on the redskins,or in that instance,in the nfl
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Brunell hasnt had any great long throws since week 3 against Dallas. When was the last time you saw Moss or anyone for that matter catch one of Brunell's passes in stride? and then go for a touchdown? Great QB's can "thread the needle" and are able to throw into double coverage, he can't or won't for some reason. Great! Brunell doesnt have many pix this season, but that doesnt often times happen when you throw the ball 10-15 yards, or do a WR screen, thats where all of his passes are going. I would much rather have a QB with a future (Ramsey) back there willing to throw the long ball, and maybe get a pic, than Brunell who when the game is on the line prefers to take a sack or throw it out of bounds. Brunell has showed sparks of greatness while with the Skins, but so has Ramsey, he may throw pics, but he doesnt fumble every time he gets sacked. Give him a shot!
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Re: Thoughts on Ramsey and Brunell...

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Brunell hasnt had any great long throws since week 3 against Dallas. When was the last time you saw Moss or anyone for that matter catch one of Brunell's passes in stride? and then go for a touchdown? Great QB's can "thread the needle" and are able to throw into double coverage, he can't or won't for some reason. Great! Brunell doesnt have many pix this season, but that doesnt often times happen when you throw the ball 10-15 yards, or do a WR screen, thats where all of his passes are going. I would much rather have a QB with a future (Ramsey) back there willing to throw the long ball, and maybe get a pic, than Brunell who when the game is on the line prefers to take a sack or throw it out of bounds. Brunell has showed sparks of greatness while with the Skins, but so has Ramsey, he may throw pics, but he doesnt fumble every time he gets sacked. Give him a shot!
Ramsey has a live arm but so did Heath.
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Ramsey has a live arm but so did Heath.
Dont get me started on that 1 please..lmao
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Re: Thoughts on Ramsey and Brunell...

i not trying to rip brunell but sooner or later some one has to find out if patrick can play pro football.as for this season,brunell plays the whole season unless we are mathematically eliminated
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for some reason the coaches dont have any faith in ramsey.and dont give me that "its what they are seeing in practice"crap because im sure mark brunell wasnt sucking in practice last year and we all know what the results of last year were.the facts are,and i love coach gibbs to death but..brunell shouldve been yanked earlier to see if ramsey has a place on the redskins,or in that instance,in the nfl
So why is Ramsey on the bench??

Is this another personal "conspiracy theory" vendetta the coaches have against a player, like Williams with Arrington?

Are the Skins holding back Ramsey because they don't like him for some odd reason?

No, it's because what they've seen from him, they don't trust that he is a better QB than Mark Brunell. And with the way Brunell has played this year how can anyone disagree with them?

The Ramsey apologists keep pointing to what could be with Ramsey... are you saying we should have replaced Brunell a few weeks ago when the team was still in the hunt? Why in the hell would we replace a QB who is having a stellar season... just to see what Ramsey may or may not be capable of?? Huh? You really lost me there.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:26 PM   #72
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im not saying replace brunell.my beef is with what happened last year.now we really dont know what p ramsey is capable of given a full season without the threat of being yanked.there is no way i have given up on this team.i was around when coach gibbs came around the first time,started 0-5,wound up being 8-8.as far as im concerned,this team is very capable of running the table.as far as brunell(who is soon to be 36)he is having a pro bowl type year,given the fact that the redskins have had pretty much one receiver all year,not counting chris cooley
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Re: Thoughts on Ramsey and Brunell...

Ok, I thought you were talking about this year.

I still don't understand why people are still hung up on last year though.

Brunell has had 1 subpar year out of 13. That's called a fluke in my book. I get the feeling some people are just waiting (hoping?) for him to crash and burn again.
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:11 PM   #74
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Re: Thoughts on Ramsey and Brunell...

People are just trying to find something to complain about. Most of those "realists" who only find things to complain about use last year like some crutch. And I do believe they hope we crumble this year so as to be proven right. It seems like being right is more important than seeing this team succeed with this current coaching staff and roster.
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Re: Thoughts on Ramsey and Brunell...

I seriously thought Brunnel was washed up. I applauded the Brunnel benching and the move to starting Ramsey and naming him the starter for 2005. It was quite apparent during the preseason, Brunnel put the team in a better position to win. Ramsey was not progressing. What is the cost of a quality starting quarterback? In the NFL, I would say very high. Whether you like him or not, you would have to agree that Brunnel has performed admiringly. Ramsey needs to move on and find out if he can start in the NFL. I just don't see that happening in Washington. The Skins need draft picks to beef up the defensive line and an athletic/physical wide receiver (not TO). They especially need a pass rushing defensive end. That is priority one.

I was very disappointed with last year's draft. Defensive end and wide receiver should have been on the board last year. Here are some defensive ends that were drafted fourth round or beyond.
Chauncey Davis ATL 6'1" 258 lbs. Florida St.
Chris Canty DAL 6'7" 295 lbs. Virginia
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