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Old 12-01-2005, 09:56 AM   #16
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

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Bigskin, the reason she said 5th weakest schedule in the league is because before the start of the season, it was. Surprisingly, most of the teams we have played have winning records.

Bears: 8-3
Cowboys - 7-4
Seahawks - 9-2
Broncos - 9-2
Chiefs - 7-4
49ers - 2-9
Giants - 7-4
Eagles - 5-6
Buccaneers - 7-4
Raiders - 4-7
Chargers - 7-4

as you can see, the teams we have played are a combined 82 - 51. That certainly is not the fifth weakest schedule in the league. She is just going on whatever looks best.
mooby, you said it. i was going to make the same post. The fact is that we have played some very good teams and have been in almost every single game. I don't know of too many teams that have had as difficult schedule as we have.
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:40 AM   #17
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

Sally Jenkins is definitely not my favorite columnist, but there is some painfull truth in some of her comments. Let's analyze her column.

"At this point only the real burgundy-bleeders, the ones who sit in traffic to park in a littered pay lot and watch the Washington Redskins from the far reaches of the upper deck, who decorate their houses with Redskins door-knockers and table lamps, and their cars with antenna flags, believe that this can still be a deserving playoff team.

No, the season's not over. Yes, they've got five games left. But this is the time of year when teams get better, or they get worse, and the Redskins at 5-6 have gotten decidedly worse. The trends are not good, and after 11 games, trends are the truth. What you are now is probably what you are, period."

True. Playoff teams get better and win in November and December.

"If you listen to Mr. Tony's radio show, you've heard his message of hope. If the Redskins can win at St. Louis and Arizona, they will be 7-6, and then anything is possible, especially with the NFC East still in a tumult. They could even run the table. The trouble is that nothing in the Redskins' recent play would lead you to think they can do it. If you believe they can, you probably wear a Redskins belt buckle.

Playoff-bound teams, ascendant ones as opposed to deteriorating ones, don't look as if they've been stricken by bird flu. They haven't lost six of their last eight and blown three straight fourth-quarter leads, or dropped two in a row at home. Nor are they carping about officiating, bad luck and injuries. They're winning the close ones by doing the little things right instead of hoping for help from the opponents or the guys in striped shirts, or a sudden twist of fate."

Painfully true. You can't keep blowing fourth quarter leads and complaining about officiating.

"It's not just the big trends, the 5-6 mark against the fifth-weakest schedule in the league, and the fourth-quarter collapses that provoke skepticism. (As one of our headlines put it so aptly Monday, "Redskins Come From Ahead to Lose Again, in OT This Time.") It's the smaller, sickly trends that make it difficult to believe the Redskins can reverse the larger trends. Joe Gibbs has coached the Redskins for 27 games, and they've managed to score more than 21 points just four times. Clinton Portis has yet to rush for consecutive 100-yard games. On third-down conversions against San Diego on Sunday, they were 3 for 14, and in the fourth quarter alone they were 1 for 6."

The weak schedule is absolutely false. She must be basing that on preseason predictions. It's got to be one of the toughest schedules based on this seasons results.

"It's officially a trend when you get the ball at the opponent's 31-yard line -- and can't get close enough to kick a field goal.

Watching the Redskins' offense has become a mental chore. For a quarter or two, it looks all right. You see some promise, you really do. And then the three-and-outs become numbing, and you find your mind wandering to other, more interesting things, like, how you need to recycle the dry-cleaning hangers in the closet, and clean the oven grease trap.

Compare those trends to what some other teams are doing, trend-wise. Seattle, an early-season victim of the Redskins, has won seven straight. So has Chicago. Denver has won four in a row. So have the Chargers, who incidentally have managed to score at least 17 points in 25 straight games. Even Minnesota has won four in a row with Brad Johnson and is above .500 for the first time this season, and has a chance to get to 7-5 with the Lions coming up. As for the NFC East, the New York Giants and Eli Manning had won four of their previous five before their soul-searing loss in overtime to the Seahawks on Sunday, and if place kicker Jay Feely's leg works at all, they've won five of six. If you watched that game with any detachment, you thought, "I just watched two playoff teams."

The trends are truefully disturbing.

"The Redskins by comparison are a vague, blurry team with no clear identity. They're a ball-control team that can't control the ball, a big-play defense that hasn't made enough game-winning stops. They do a lot of good things, but they do as many bad things -- Casey Rabach didn't just hold that guy, he calf-roped him. Or they founder in the middle of the field doing nothing at all. They've been flat and cautious when it counted most, and their play-calling is indecipherable. The Redskins' lack of any distinguishing feature, of hard edges, has become their most defining characteristic. They are unremarkable."

You have to admit that calf-roped comment was funny and on point.

"Predictably so. And that brings us to the most chronic trend of all, the trend that has lasted more than five years now: The Redskins are in danger of becoming consistently, repeatedly, systematically, season after season, through changes in coaches, players, etc., etc., a losing franchise. You get the uneasy sense that what has happened to them in the last few games is part of some larger, long-term malaise for which they're not entirely responsible. You feel for Gibbs and his players, it's difficult to watch all that hard work and hard play disappear into the gloom that has marked Daniel Snyder's ownership. The Redskins put teams on the field under Norv Turner and Marty Schottenheimer that managed to lose critical close games . . . and now they've turned around and put a team on the field that lost critical close games to Norv Turner and Marty Schottenheimer.

Worst of all, their chronic struggle to be better than a .500 team has not been especially interesting to watch. To find the Redskins interesting, you have to be strangely fascinated by malfunctions. You have to have a weird interest in the forensics of failure. Or you have to find their various capricious ways of losing suspenseful.

And that trend is perhaps finally beginning to tell in the stands. There were 8,400 announced no-shows at FedEx Field on Sunday, which suggests that a fan base that has been historically one of the most passionate and loyal in all of pro football, may finally be feeling a tad fed up. It's a measure of Washingtonians' devotion and emotional generosity that so many keep showing up."

These are the most painful truths. The Redskins have been mediocre or bad for awhile and it coincides with Dan Snyder's ownership. I like Danny Boy's desire to win, but are the Skins going about it the right way.
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:58 AM   #18
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

What hurts most alot of it is true.
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

but it's not like we're very good. until we stop doing the things she listed then we deserve it. except for the schedule thing. we've had a bear of a schedule.
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

Playoff team????????? Now don't get me wrong but I think that we have seen enough of the Skins blowing it late in the game to say nice try better time next year. Quarterback? Who? Exactly!!!
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

I wonder how Sally saw the Skins fans she bashed from NYC?
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:58 AM   #22
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

Yawn. What a surprise--Sally ripping the skins. I don't care that it's true. What bothers me is that she ONLY writes articles like this. Like we need salt in the wounds from a reporter at the Post. As I said in the last anti-Sally thread, my beef with her is that she writes like Dr. Z and Pasta, when she works at a local paper. And she seems to take shrill glee at being able to say "I told you so" to those among us who ACTUALLY LIKE THE SKINS!

Message to Sally: if you don't like the skins, don't write about them. It will save us all a modicum of pain--we've got enough to feel bad about without you kicking us when we're down.

PS Can't the Post find ANYONE who actually likes the skins? How about Joe Crisp, for example? Just a thought...
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:43 PM   #23
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Another brilliantly crafted piece of positivity... too bad the team isn't giving her reason to not write junk like this. Let's face it, the team deserves any crap that's flung their way at this point.
I don't agree.

When reading a political opinion article, you can generally tell how intelligent and mature the author is by the words he/she uses. For example, college kids use big words without knowing what they mean and have no sense of proportion. They will refer to the US as an "imperialist power" and Guantanamo Bay as "Auschwitz." They will also often say that the world is coming to and end because of this politician or that politician. Everything is spoken in the language of hyperbole. A good and intelligent analyst will rationally look at events and present an unbiased, open, thoughtful, and realistic depiction of what he/she sees.

As much as I like Wilbon and Kornheiser, these guys are kings of hyperbole. And Sally Jenkins, well....she's Sally Jenkins. The press will make these melodramatic statements about the team because it sellls newspapers. People apparently like, and buy into, the "O'Reilly Factor" style of reporting. I don't.

This team has struggled lately closing out games. At the beginning of the season it was just the opposite; they were winning games in overtime and on the last play of the last drive of regulation.

Perhaps, a rash of injuries has affected the team's ability to close out games? Griffin, who IMHO is the defense's MVP, was out for the last month or so. Patten and Thrash have been injured for two weeks and two games. Samuels has been playing with gimpy legs. Jansen has been playing with broken thumbs. Perhaps, this team is simply crashing back to earth after thinking, early in the season, it was so much better than it really was. Perhaps, no one really knows what the problem or problems are.

The difference between a team that wins in OT and one that loses in OT is ever so slight. It is easy to say that good teams find ways to win in OT and bad ones find ways to lose. Well, what can people honestly say about a team that has done both? How can people say one week, the team is rock solid and the next week be ready to abandon them because they are so horrible?
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gotcha, that is exactly why we hate her, we have played very good teams and she discredits her articles with dumbass comments like that. Most of her stuff is straight to the point and it is hard to argue but she has a way of putting in little things that change the tone of the articles. Most of the stuff is green but she always has to have that red stuff, and this is why some of us can say, 'well she is only speaking the truth' while others hate her so much. If she just sticked to the logical stuff i wouldn't mind her, infact some parts of her articles are really good and reflect EXACTLY what some of us are thinking.
Good analysis BigSkin. I also had a hard time arguing with most of what she said this time, but she always throws in those potshots (like the schedule comment) which discredit her valid comments.
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I don't agree.

When reading a political opinion article, you can generally tell how intelligent and mature the author is by the words he/she uses. For example, college kids use big words without knowing what they mean and have no sense of proportion. They will refer to the US as an "imperialist power" and Guantanamo Bay as "Auschwitz." They will also often say that the world is coming to and end because of this politician or that politician. Everything is spoken in the language of hyperbole. A good and intelligent analyst will rationally look at events and present an unbiased, open, thoughtful, and realistic depiction of what he/she sees.

As much as I like Wilbon and Kornheiser, these guys are kings of hyperbole. And Sally Jenkins, well....she's Sally Jenkins. The press will make these melodramatic statements about the team because it sellls newspapers. People apparently like, and buy into, the "O'Reilly Factor" style of reporting. I don't.

This team has struggled lately closing out games. At the beginning of the season it was just the opposite; they were winning games in overtime and on the last play of the last drive of regulation.

Perhaps, a rash of injuries has affected the team's ability to close out games? Griffin, who IMHO is the defense's MVP, was out for the last month or so. Patten and Thrash have been injured for two weeks and two games. Samuels has been playing with gimpy legs. Jansen has been playing with broken thumbs. Perhaps, this team is simply crashing back to earth after thinking, early in the season, it was so much better than it really was. Perhaps, no one really knows what the problem or problems are.

The difference between a team that wins in OT and one that loses in OT is ever so slight. It is easy to say that good teams find ways to win in OT and bad ones find ways to lose. Well, what can people honestly say about a team that has done both? How can people say one week, the team is rock solid and the next week be ready to abandon them because they are so horrible?
My basic point is if we were 8-3 right now she wouldn't have anything to complain about.

When you're 5-6, you have to take the heat, because frankly even though there are perfectly rational and logical explanations as to why we're are 5-6, the bottom line is we are 5-6 and quicking fading from the playoff race. Therefore hacks like Jenkins have fuel for their fire.
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What I thought was the snottiest part of that article was how she was taking a shot at the fans. I mean it was straight up making fun of people who actually care about the team. I'm sure that was taken too well by ANYONE who likes the Skins.
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What I thought was the snottiest part of that article was how she was taking a shot at the fans. I mean it was straight up making fun of people who actually care about the team. I'm sure that was taken too well by ANYONE who likes the Skins.
Yeah that was a low blow, but par for the course with her.
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Who cares what that has to say!
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

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My basic point is if we were 8-3 right now she wouldn't have anything to complain about.

When you're 5-6, you have to take the heat, because frankly even though there are perfectly rational and logical explanations as to why we're are 5-6, the bottom line is we are 5-6 and quicking fading from the playoff race. Therefore hacks like Jenkins have fuel for their fire.
There is definately stuff to complain about; the defense gives us big plays at critical points in the game after playing at such a high level in the first 3 quarters, the defense can't get turnovers, the offense can't score points, the offense can't throw the ball deep anymore, special teams has been questionable, and we've lost a lot of games in the past 7 weeks. BUT, it's one thing to recognize those flaws as flaws, it's a different matter to allow those flaws to totally consume your analysis of a team.

There are a lot of people who say, "you are what you are." These people will look solely at a record and say, "the record is all that counts." Yet, these same people will say that we are in a total freefall and we stink. Well, these people should pay heed to their own sayings. We are what we are and our record suggests that we are an average team that loses games by a few points and wins games by a few points. It doesn't matter if you start out hot and then fade, start out cold and get hot, or stay lukewarm all season. All that matters is how many Ws and Ls you have at the END of the season.
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Re: Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

I think the biggest flaw we have is depth. As long as the starters are all healthy, we seem to be able to pull out the close wins, but when we start having key guys injured like Griffin, Betts, Springs, or Taylor, our weaknesses are exposed. I believe that was another key ingredient that made Gibbs' first tenure a success - having a deep roster. It is probably tougher to have such a deep roster nowadays, so more importance is placed on the starters staying healthy.
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