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Old 12-03-2005, 12:09 PM   #16
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Re: Is it Portis or the Offensive line?

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ITS PORTIS! if you look at san diego they run essentially the same running plays that we do, but LT in the 4th and OT quarters got stronger not weaker. Watch the play of Portis if there isnt a hole he just runs into the back of his OL he hardly ever bounces it outside, and if he does find a break he trips all over himself. Maybe he is thinking too much of his stupid costumes he gonna wear on Thursday. When Rock or Betts get in there they seem to find holes for good gains, isnt it the same line thats in there all game?
Have we really come to people saying ROCK or BETTS are better backs than Portis.
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Old 12-03-2005, 12:13 PM   #17
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Re: Is it Portis or the Offensive line?

im not saying they are better they are def back ups, but they seem to find holes where Portis cannot. Portis runs for 3 yds/carry, Cartwright gets in there and runs for 13 for a TD, whens that last time you saw portis do that? Im saying when they get their shots they move the ball, throw Nemo in there. I dont care how much we spent on Portis if someone else can do the job then let em, hes not doing it
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Old 12-03-2005, 01:00 PM   #18
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Re: Is it Portis or the Offensive line?

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ITS PORTIS! if you look at san diego they run essentially the same running plays that we do, but LT in the 4th and OT quarters got stronger not weaker. Watch the play of Portis if there isnt a hole he just runs into the back of his OL he hardly ever bounces it outside, and if he does find a break he trips all over himself. Maybe he is thinking too much of his stupid costumes he gonna wear on Thursday. When Rock or Betts get in there they seem to find holes for good gains, isnt it the same line thats in there all game?
San Diego DOES NOT run essentially the same plays. LT has something that Portis does not have and that is a "blocking" FB. I think that Portis would run better if we used Sellers in the FB roll more often, but we dont.
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Old 12-03-2005, 02:00 PM   #19
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San Diego DOES NOT run essentially the same plays. LT has something that Portis does not have and that is a "blocking" FB. I think that Portis would run better if we used Sellers in the FB roll more often, but we dont.
Good point, LT is running behind the best run-blocking FB (Lorenzo Neal) in the league. Only KC's Tony Richardson is in the same "league" as Neal.
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thats why i say its a 1979 offense and not 2005

Gibbs wasn't around Washington in 1979.
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Old 12-03-2005, 02:19 PM   #21
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Re: Is it Portis or the Offensive line?

One of the major problems with the running game is that the plays are telegraphed from their infancy. When we line up in running formation with a blocker in front of Portis be it Sellers, a tight-end, or Cooley, if you watch the nearest deep back he will usually lead you to the point of attack even with the man in motion. This is the same type offense Gibbs ran with the Hogs and Riggins. Defenses' knew what was coming but they still couldn't stop it. However Riggins is a Hall of Famer and Portis is nothing near that. Coaches have had thirteen years to figure out what Gibbs was doing to them and it's not happening the same way this time around. We have no Riggins, we have no Hogs, so Joe is going to have to change his style of attack if the running game is going to succeed in those crutial times in a game when it's really needed. If you watch closely the defenses' reaction on most of our running plays, you can witness them moving into position to make a play at what they anticipate is going to be the point of attack. Diversity is a must.

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but they couldn't stop it because our line at that time was unlioke any other in the league at that time
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One of the major problems with the running game is that the plays are telegraphed from their infancy. When we line up in running formation with a blocker in front of Portis be it Sellers, a tight-end, or Cooley, if you watch the nearest deep back he will usually lead you to the point of attack even with the man in motion. This is the same type offense Gibbs ran with the Hogs and Riggins. Defenses' knew what was coming but they still couldn't stop it. However Riggins is a Hall of Famer and Portis is nothing near that. Coaches have had thirteen years to figure out what Gibbs was doing to them and it's not happening the same way this time around. We have no Riggins, we have no Hogs, so Joe is going to have to change his style of attack if the running game is going to succeed in those crutial times in a game when it's really needed. If you watch closely the defenses' reaction on most of our running plays, you can witness them moving into position to make a play at what they anticipate is going to be the point of attack. Diversity is a must.

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but they couldn't stop it because our line at that time was unlioke any other in the league at that time

You are absolutely correct, and I had intended to make that a part of my original post.
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You are absolutely correct, and I had intended to make that a part of my original post.
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:35 PM   #24
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That was not my coment Redskins 8588. Obviously someone posted and didn't take their credit.
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Good point, LT is running behind the best run-blocking FB (Lorenzo Neal) in the league. Only KC's Tony Richardson is in the same "league" as Neal.
I'd add Mack Strong of the Seahawks to that list....and what a perfect name for a fullback
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I'd add Mack Strong of the Seahawks to that list....and what a perfect name for a fullback
and dan kreider on the steelers
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:57 AM   #27
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Re: Is it Portis or the Offensive line?

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im not saying they are better they are def back ups, but they seem to find holes where Portis cannot. Portis runs for 3 yds/carry, Cartwright gets in there and runs for 13 for a TD, whens that last time you saw portis do that? Im saying when they get their shots they move the ball, throw Nemo in there. I dont care how much we spent on Portis if someone else can do the job then let em, hes not doing it
portis got the 8 yard TD against the eagles among other things and his average is 4.2 last i checked. rock has less than 100yards on the year.
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:59 AM   #28
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Re: Is it Portis or the Offensive line?

I was watching an old VHS copy of the 88 NFC championship and Superbowl haha. One day I won't have to live in the past! Any way, its funny how similar our offense is to that one. Someone earlier said that they knew what was coming back then, just no one could stop it...I agree, but I think it was all the o line. Our running backs that year were George Rogers, Timmy Smith, and Kelvin Bryant...none of which are hall of famers. They just had a steam roller in front of them, so they could chip off 5 or 6 yards every time. It was the same frustrating offense as now...it just worked! Run, run, pass...run, run, pass...with a few shots downfield every now and then but mostly dink and dunk passes. Madden and Summerall even knew the name to the Skins' running packages-"heavy" if that says how obvious it was. They knew about the counter-tre just like they do now. Great pass blocking too...Williams didn't get sacked too often. I tell you though, even though the offensive line was great...what I wouldn't give to have Dave Butz, Dexter Manly, Monty Coleman, and Charles Mann again!
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:29 AM   #29
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He did well in Denver behind a Pro-Bowl Line.....but hey, lets blame him....just because it easier and he took all that money.........Shame on you Clinton, Shame on you :yeahright
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Old 12-04-2005, 12:59 PM   #30
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Re: Is it Portis or the Offensive line?

i guy that runs for 1500 yards in back to back seasons doesnt come east and all of a sudden forget how to run the football.this is a ridiculous thread.i love the skins but the problem is 2 fold.our line is not as good as denvers,and sometimes our play calling leaves alot to be desired
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