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Old 12-16-2005, 11:34 AM   #46
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

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No I don't know that, the fact is your not basing your conclusion on Lavar being the best LB on our team by production, it's being based on his name, your to caught up in the Lavar hype, and not the Lavar substance, Lavar is not a better LB than Washington, he may be a better athlete, but that's where it ends, and I would personally rather see Clemons in there more.

As for the play involving Gates, I recorded it so I was able to watch the replay a few times, Arrington stood in the D-backfield on the strong side and followed Brees's movement as if he had a chance to make a play on the QB from the secondary, while Gates ran right out into the flat into Arringtons area while Arrington ignored the fact that someone could slip out into the flat, he then only reacted after the ball was thrown and it was to late to catch up, he was the only one out there, and realisticly the only one who should have been responsible for anyone releasing into the flat, and that is why Williams is reluctant to play him, he really is in his own world out there, it just takes one play like that to cost us a game [especially the way our offense keeps teams in the game] and Williams is not willing to risk that.

Kind of funny that Lavar had been coming out on definate passing downs, it seems Clemons gets the call when we need a real pass rusher and he's been far better at it than Lavar.
you talk as though you are in the huddle, or sideline and know what he was suppose to do. Nobody but GW,Joe and players on the defense knew what he was suppose to do. Maybe he was to cover him, maybe he was blitzing the QB. Until somebody comes out,which is n't going to happen now, and says LaVar was to cover gates, or this person was to cover gates, stop assuming that Gates was his guy. When somebody is blitzing that is their job to get into the back field, which he did. If he was suppose to cover gates, I doubt that his initial movement would have been towards the QB.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:31 PM   #47
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you talk as though you are in the huddle, or sideline and know what he was suppose to do. Nobody but GW,Joe and players on the defense knew what he was suppose to do. Maybe he was to cover him, maybe he was blitzing the QB. Until somebody comes out,which is n't going to happen now, and says LaVar was to cover gates, or this person was to cover gates, stop assuming that Gates was his guy. When somebody is blitzing that is their job to get into the back field, which he did. If he was suppose to cover gates, I doubt that his initial movement would have been towards the QB.
It was not hard to see that Lavar was supposed to recognize the flat, and maybe notice that the most prolific receiving tight end in the NFL was creeping out there in his area. And if he was supposed to blitz, then he was missing his assignment anyway, cause he was just standing there.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:18 PM   #48
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It was not hard to see that Lavar was supposed to recognize the flat, and maybe notice that the most prolific receiving tight end in the NFL was creeping out there in his area. And if he was supposed to blitz, then he was missing his assignment anyway, cause he was just standing there.
Like I said you were not in huddle and dont know what he was to do. Why would they have LaVar covering a TE of Gates calliber, he didn't cover him all day. Taylor and other safeties covered him all day. so I think its hard to believe at the end of the game they would switch that sence they kept Gates in check all day. When LaVar was blitzing, he could n't get in back field, and DT,DE and rushing players are tought if you cant get in the backfield hold your possition and get your hand up, now maybe he didn't get his hands up. I seriously doubt that LaVar was responcable for Gates, he didn't have him all day. Plus on passing plays where LaVar would be in coverage, he generally is taken out in favor of Clemons.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:25 PM   #49
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Nonsense, Joe is too old to play these stupid owner games. He will do what it takes to win, short of playing criminals and immoral idiots. No way does he sacrafice wins over $$$$ for the owner.
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Skindog nailed it, if it was a blitz as you say, then he blew that as well, I watched the replay he just stood there moving to his right a couple of steps following the QB's movement, while Gates slipped out to Lavars left. No I wasen't in the huddle but I have to assume that Williams who has been our best and most intelligent coach by far, had Arrington over there for something more than his good looks, then considering Lavar's track record with reads of this nature I then put my conclusion together, but yes you could be right, and I could be wrong, I was not in the huddle, nor did I hear someone from the caoching staff say he blew it, that was my own conclusion.
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Old 12-16-2005, 05:28 PM   #51
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The reason I exclude the year he played DE, is DE is a more physical position but less responsibility compared to LB, maybe thats where he needs to be, he can use his physical skills without having to really think about responsibility in the passing game.



i kinda agree with you, i like lavar playing lb but he was a very good de. and the skins could definately use some pass rush from the de position. i just think our d is better with him on the field, regardless of his position.
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Old 12-16-2005, 09:09 PM   #52
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Lavar Arrington is Questionable for Sundays game.

I TOLD YA SO!!!

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Skindog nailed it, if it was a blitz as you say, then he blew that as well, I watched the replay he just stood there moving to his right a couple of steps following the QB's movement, while Gates slipped out to Lavars left. No I wasen't in the huddle but I have to assume that Williams who has been our best and most intelligent coach by far, had Arrington over there for something more than his good looks, then considering Lavar's track record with reads of this nature I then put my conclusion together, but yes you could be right, and I could be wrong, I was not in the huddle, nor did I hear someone from the caoching staff say he blew it, that was my own conclusion.
Actually Offiss the saftey had responsibility on Gates but took a bad inside move. Then lost the angle on him. Who was that you might ask? Sean Taylor
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