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Old 12-19-2005, 01:45 PM   #31
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Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win.

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EXACTLY! We stop Tiki Barber, we win the game. Its that simple.
Not sure it is "that simple" but it definitely gives us a much better shot at winning.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:49 PM   #32
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EXACTLY! We stop Tiki Barber, we win the game. Its that simple.
I don't think any D can completely stop Tiki the way he's playing this year. He's such a well conditioned back that he can break one when everybody's worn down. BUT, our D-line is playing much better ball which may allow us to get some coughs/INTs from Eli and maybe even Tiki. We need to convert those opportunities like we did yesterday to win
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:09 PM   #33
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Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win.

Tiki will break a big run or two, but if our D can keep him out of the end zone and pressure Manning, we can keep Barber from hurting us the way he did last time.

This game's even bigger than the Dallas game, and the fans played a key role. We need the fans to go crazy against the Giants, too. I was at FedEx yesterday, and I hope the fans going Saturday are ready to be just as loud!
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Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win.

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I don't think any D can completely stop Tiki the way he's playing this year. He's such a well conditioned back that he can break one when everybody's worn down. BUT, our D-line is playing much better ball which may allow us to get some coughs/INTs from Eli and maybe even Tiki. We need to convert those opportunities like we did yesterday to win
Remember that Tiki put 200+ on us when Cornelius Griffin was hurt. It's obvious that our D is much superior with Grif manning the middle.

Looking at Barber's 2 games against us last year (with Griffin in the lineuup):

18 carries for 42 yards (2.3 average)
15 carries for 38 yards (2.5 average)

Zero TDs for both games. I love our chances against backup tackles in a LOUD FedEx field. Limit Barber, and our D tees off on Eli much as it did against Bledsoe.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:31 PM   #35
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Question is, can we run on the Giants without Randy Thomas? We're going to have to change a lot of our running schemes because Ray Brown can't pull like Thomas could.
Schneed you're on point with that. definitely don't think we can counter-trey all day like we did vs. Dallas without Thomas. we're gonna have to do more vanilla runs without the pulling. the answer? drop Robert Royal and keep Sellers in to lead block (that's my big Redskin agenda of the moment). no one hits people like that guy, he's the perfect answer for the running part of that problem, lets hope he's worked on pass protection a bit.

again you're on point with Griffin, he was ACHING to play vs. his former team, but was hurt and couldn't. This is the time.

Barber, their monstrous Dline, and their recievers are our biggest worries.

what are the chances of LaVar playing??? we need him to stop Barber and get to Manning, if he's in with Griffin we could maybe repeat what happened with Dallas. if Manning gets time, he'll kill us with Burress and Toomer or deadly screens to Finn and Barber.

Pierce is out, so we need to attack that middle with Cooley (he's been working the outside so much, we could benefit changing it up), Sellers/Portis inside combo, and Thrash, we need Thrash back to take those inside slants now more than ever.

Harris, Springs and Rogers need to get some REST this week!
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Yesterday was the best I've seen the Redskins Defense play since last season. They were hitting out there and punishing any one who attempted to catch the ball. To win agianst the Giants,the skins have to study these Giants like they did the boys. keep Manning on his back and bottle up Tiki. The Offense has to control the ball and possession time. Consistently put points up on the board. Win the take away battle.

Good things for us:
1. It's at home ~the 12th man has to show up big for us!
2. It's a must win for us, if we win we'll be in better position for playoff contention
3.We beat the boy's~ that is a major confidence boost
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:28 PM   #37
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Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win.

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Those points are all well and good, but I'd have to rank our top 3 priorities as such:

#1 - STOP TIKI BARBER
#2 - STOP TIKI BARBER
#3 - STOP TIKI BARBER

Not to sound like a broken record of every sports announcer, but the guy is seriously underrated. He basically carries that team. How many 200+ yard games has he run for? 200+ against us last time, 220 on Saturday - the guy's a beast. Sure Eli has the potential to light things up, but he's young and inconsistent, and as of late has been tossing INTs right and left.

I'm pretty confident we can stop Shockey, Buress and Eli, but Tiki scares the living sh!t out of me. Seems like everyone focuses in on Shockey or Eli and totally forgets Tiki, and he then proceeds to torch you for some previously unheard of rushing stat.

I think this game will be won or lost based on the defenses ability to stop Barber.

I agree, so far this season Tiki Barber has been the heart beat of the Giant's offense. If we can limit his production we will win the game.

Boy!! yesterday's game reminded me of old times. We couldn't find much to complain about yesterday.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:35 PM   #38
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:28 PM   #39
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Joe is the man but I seriously spent a lot of time in the 2nd half yelling at the TV that he needs to take out starters, including Portis and Brunell but also others - we're already banged up and it was 35-0 at home at night in the cold. This loss (Randy Thomas) hurts - did you see him running up and down that field bashing people out of the way? I love Ray but can't rely on him - who else do we have to replace RT?
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:35 PM   #40
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Love the optimism and the detail in your posting. Still - and I'm as excited as I've been since late 1999 about this team - this is a serious hurdle coming up. This team utterly spanked us last time; just a horrendous beating. Anyway I think that even with all the positives (game at home, Pierce out, Giants less at stake, 3-game win streak for us and generally positive/confident clubhouse, peaking at the right time, still no injury problems for Brunell this late, possible Arrington return, etc.) it's going to be one of those games where just everybody needs to totally step up to another level - just take over the game in the middle of the second quarter or something and say we'r
e at home and we ain't leaving tonight without a win - god how I pray. Hope all is well.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:38 PM   #41
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Love the optimism and the detail in your posting. Still - and I'm as excited as I've been since late 1999 about this team - this is a serious hurdle coming up. This team utterly spanked us last time; just a horrendous beating. Anyway I think that even with all the positives (game at home, Pierce out, Giants less at stake, 3-game win streak for us and generally positive/confident clubhouse, peaking at the right time, still no injury problems for Brunell this late, possible Arrington return, etc.) it's going to be one of those games where just everybody needs to totally step up to another level - just take over the game in the middle of the second quarter or something and say we'r
e at home and we ain't leaving tonight without a win - god how I pray. Hope all is well.
Great stat !! But - didn't a healthy Pierce (and for that matter Arrington) play in both of those games?
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:45 PM   #42
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Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win.

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#1 Priority on D: STOP THE RUN. Tiki has been running wild. Take that away and make Eli throw.
Tiki is garbage, hes a overrated running back, running behind a great line.......no if and or buts about it.....
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:59 PM   #43
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How to Beat the G-Men

When coaches play against former players they have a great advantage.

We beat Dallas twice because of Williams and the fact that he used to coach Bledsoe.

Remember how we said that Pierce used to do all the defensive play calling for the skins.

The reason that the giants beat us is because they knowor defensive playbook.

The only way that we can beat them is if we change up the D completely for one game and trick them.

I'm concerned about this game.
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Old 12-20-2005, 02:44 AM   #44
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Remember how we said that Pierce used to do all the defensive play calling for the skins.

The reason that the giants beat us is because they knowor defensive playbook.

The only way that we can beat them is if we change up the D completely for one game and trick them.

I'm concerned about this game.
Kinda like in Rocky II when Micky makes Rocky become right handed rather than being a south paw. I like where your going with this idea, it worked for Rocky, it just might work for us!!!
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:14 AM   #45
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Re: How to Beat the G-Men

we are going to need the redskins to play like they did against dallas same effort for 4 quarters saturday.hit them in the mouth for all 60 minutes.

no lettin up from this point forward.
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