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Old 12-29-2005, 02:42 PM   #1
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What's different about the skins this year?

There are many explanations for what has changed (including better game-planning, play-calling, sticking with the run, etc.) but the biggest intangible, in my opinion, has been the bunch of guys Gibbs has assembled. Gibbs-type guys.

Wynn (I couldn't stand this guy two years ago because he's such an average DE), Marcus Washington, Randy Thomas, Ryan Clark, Griffin, Salave'A, Sellers, Springs, Cooley, Portis, Jansen, Moss, Ray Brown, etc.....these are all consummate team guys. Sean Taylor - many might consider him a hot-head or immature, but even he is a consummate team player. Many consider Lavar to be a prima donna, but his handling of the lack of playing time, relations with the coaching staff, etc. could've been a lot worse than this. Last, but not least, the biggest example of teamsmanship (is that even a word?) this year has been Benny Ramsey.

I still remember Gibbs' introductory press conference in Jan 2004. One of the things he said that made an impression was "you win by surrounding yourself with good people." Clearly, he meant both coaching staff and personnel-wise. Playoffs, or no playoffs this year, I think Gibbs has turned us into a contender simply by assembling a bunch of character guys. Game-planning, play-calling, etc., while very important to a team's success, are second-order criteria. We had a miserable season last year, and its a testament to the character of our players that we weathered that storm and are now on the road to better things. Sorry to get all Jerry Mcguiresque on the forum, but thought it was important enough to recognize in a new thread.

When I interview candidates for intern/analyst type positions at work, I now find myself asking the question (in my head) - is this a Gibbs-type person?
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:49 PM   #2
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Re: What's different about the skins this year?

Where do I send my resume?
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:51 PM   #3
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:13 PM   #4
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Re: What's different about the skins this year?

I'm not sure that a lot has really changed with respect to the schemes, I think there were some minor tweaks and such, but certainly not drastic changes. The shotgun would probably be the most noticeable change.

I think the turnaround can be attributed to Gibbs' type players as mentioned above, the fact that the team has some stability now in their 2nd year with this staff... guys are comfortable and know what is expected of them, and we have done a nice job at filling the roster with guys who are better suited for what we're trying to do. Moss being the perfect example. We're still throwing the WR screen a ton this year, but the huge difference is Moss can make something happen where Coles couldn't.
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:17 PM   #5
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Re: What's different about the skins this year?

Injuries were a factor too last year. The o-line without Jansen suffered albeit without a decent center like Rabach and our main WR wouldn't get the surgery he needed before last season so he couldn't utilize his natural speed. Brunell I think we can tell now was clearly hampered by something. His arm strength is simply at the next level this year plus he seems a little more mobile.
Overall though I think the extra year in the system has smoothed out the wrinkles and been responsible for a majority of the improvement.
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:38 PM   #6
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Re: What's different about the skins this year?

I think the main difference is stability.. The players know that this coaching staff, for the most part, is not going anywhere. They know the system, they know their individual position coaches expectations, they know how their teammates are going to react and adjust midstream and act accordingly..

There was an interview on Comcast (I think) with Portis and Earnest Byner talking about how they had to learn to work with each other because they are both stubborn and needed to come to a middle ground and that happened about 6 weeks ago. We've seen Portis being a lot more patient and more runs suited to Portis' style recently. Those type of things happen over time..

For the future, with the exception of Brunold, Springs and Patten we are a very young team at the skill positions which should bode well for us over the next 3 or so years.. We have our QB of the future in Campbell already in the fold so there's not a need for turnover there.. We need a young #2 WR and a young pass rushing DE but we are in better shape than we have been since Gibbs left the 1st time..
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:26 PM   #7
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Go to redskins.com and watch the Portis interview this week....thats what's different about our team....


...as dumb as they look, thats commrotery. In addition, can someone teach me how to spell commrotery?
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:46 PM   #8
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I don't think our defense is any better than last year, but Taylor, Daniels, and Rogers are making up for the loss of Pierce. Our offense, however, has morphed into the 3 headed monster of Clinton, Santana, and Chris. Without a 2nd WR (Patten was average before injury) we are blowing up the NFC East. No LB can cover Cooley and no CB can cover Santana without help. Clinton's offseason weight program work and new practice habits taught by Byner are key. Special teams are much better on coverage units, but our kicking game is still average. You have to think the offseason decision to jettison Coles and Gardner, the only 2 skins who wanted out, was the key. Everyone wants to be here and if LaVar will keep his mouth shut, we could dance our way to the Super Bowl. Gibbs' ability to adjust and create new ways to exploit our 3 headed monster has left defenses gasping for air. And getting turnovers and holding onto the ball the last few weeks is a key. Keep pounding defenses into submission and then go up top to Santana. Voila!

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Old 12-29-2005, 04:51 PM   #9
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Go to redskins.com and watch the Portis interview this week....thats what's different about our team....


...as dumb as they look, thats commrotery. In addition, can someone teach me how to spell commrotery?
Assuming you were serious, its "camaraderie."
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:55 PM   #10
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I don't think our defense is any better than last year, but Taylor, Daniels, and Rogers are making up for the loss of Pierce. Our offense, however, has morphed into the 3 headed monster of Clinton, Santana, and Chris. Without a 2nd WR (Patten was average before injury) we are blowing up the NFC East. No LB can cover Cooley and no CB can cover Santana without help. Clinton's offseason weight program work and new practice habits taught by Byner are key. Special teams are much better on coverage units, but our kicking game is still average. You have to think the offseason decision to jettison Coles and Gardner, the only 2 skins who wanted out, was the key. Everyone wants to be here and if LaVar will keep his mouth shut, we could dance our way to the Super Bowl. Gibbs' ability to adjust and create new ways to exploit our 3 headed monster has left defenses gasping for air. And getting turnovers and holding onto the ball the last few weeks is a key. Keep pounding defenses into submission and then go up top to Santana. Voila!

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Old 12-29-2005, 05:50 PM   #11
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Re: What's different about the skins this year?

10 Things that are improved from last year:

(1) Coverage Units on Special Teams
(2) Salveaa', Daniels
(3) Portis' power, conditioning, and using his abilities better
(4) Sean Taylor's discipline
(5) Gibbs' playcalling, adjustments, preparation, scheming
(6) Cooley and Sellers production, especially in Red Zone
(7) Mark Brunell and his live arm and legs
(8) Santana kills Coles
(9) No QB Controversy (hmm.....)
(10) Beating up on NFC East, priceless......
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Old 12-30-2005, 10:41 AM   #12
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Re: What's different about the skins this year?

for me the difference is THIS YEAR IS

SANTANA MOSS.
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Old 12-30-2005, 10:49 AM   #13
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Re: What's different about the skins this year?

I agree with the Moss is the difference, but the bigger picture is Clinton Portis....he is about to break the single season yardage record ALL TIME for any Redskin back. Folks, this includes Riggins, Davis, Rogers, Byner....this is HUGE! If there is a defining position on where this team is right now, its in the power running game. Smash mouth football in December and January is what a Gibbs coached team will do to you. Also noticeable is the consistency and discipline this team has put together.

Regardless, this team is on a mission!

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Old 12-30-2005, 02:29 PM   #14
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Re: What's different about the skins this year?

gibbs and the stability that comes with him.what is really true is GOOD things happen to good people and coach gibbs is definitly good people.there are certain people that can flat out coach and are born to be leaders and his own quiet way,coach is a master at both.also,the players buying into what he was trying to do here because of his credibility made it easy for them to listen.keeping the CORE people around creating chemistry(i know this sounds like a cliche)but i really believe its needed in football more so than any other sport
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