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| RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33
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| Re: Cooley Restructures His signing bonus accelerates and hits us in 2008. We take a cap hit because of it and carry him as dead money in 2008 (brings an all-too-real meaning to that term, doesn't it). It's nothing major, just a million or two. |
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| Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Wash DC
Posts: 368
| Re: Cooley Restructures Quote:
If the cap was anything like the US national deficit, Snyder's people would be heroes (at least on a national scale, we still look to save us from the wake of a DS spending spree..haha).
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| | #18 | |
| Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md.
Posts: 4,832
| Re: Cooley Restructures Quote:
Not all players are willing to restructure period. It's mostly done upon request for the sole purpose of helping the teams cap situation. I realize it's not a pay cut, rather a good faith gesture and we appreciate that. | |
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| RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33
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| Re: Cooley Restructures I've just learned that the Randle-El restructure I listed below did indeed take place as well. The $1.2 million in savings from his accounts for all of the difference between my numbers and the ones provided by PCinOZ. Because we're tying out, it's pretty much official, we're $4.0 million over the cap. Quote:
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| RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33
Posts: 7,892
| Re: Cooley Restructures Quote:
As for the debate over whether a player should be applauded for a restructure, I know I sound like a broken record but it needs to be said again. In a simple restructure, the player still gets the same amount of money his contract says he will, he just gets it all up front instead of spread over the course of the season. The player has no incentive to turn this down, and all the incentive in the world to accept it. Players don't do it out of the goodness of their heart. They do it because it's the same money up front. Now if you see a player agree to a pay cut, then you should applaud them. | |
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| | #21 |
| Special Teams Join Date: May 2006 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Age: 36
Posts: 218
| Re: Cooley Restructures Not that I really care, but when looking at accounting terms, it is actually the black not green. I have no idea why and probably should not be correcting a mod, but decided to let you know anyway. Also I need more posts as I am still below 200.. lol.
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| Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach
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| Re: Cooley Restructures So if we make the below moves we should be $ 14M under the cap, correct? Start: $20.4 million OVER cap Potential Roster Cuts: Phillip Daniels - $3.0 million saved - keep Mark Brunell - $3.4 million saved - CUT Shawn Springs - $2.5 million saved - keep Pete Kendall - $1.8 million saved - keep Todd Wade - $700K saved - CUT Total Savings for Cuts: $11.4 million Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Base Salary, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract: Randy Thomas - $3.7 million saved - EXECUTED Clinton Portis - $3.2 million saved - yes Jon Jansen - $3.2 million saved - no Chris Samuels - $2.8 million saved - yes Cornelius Griffin - $2.6 million saved - yes Santana Moss - $1.9 million saved - yes Casey Rabach - $1.4 million save - yes Total Salary Restructure Savings: $18.8 million Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Roster Bonuses, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract: Ladell Betts - $1.7 million saved - yes Clinton Portis - $0.4 million saved - yes Chris Cooley - $9.2 million saved - EXECUTED Andre Carter - $1.9 million saved - EXECUTED Antwaan Randle-El - $1.2 million saved - EXECUTED Total Bonus Restructure Savings: $14.4 million
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| Naega jeil jal naga ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27
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| Re: Cooley Restructures When is Cap Hell going to frezze over? I hear about it every year and it never seems to happen.
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| | #24 |
| Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 36
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| Re: Cooley Restructures So if I understand this correctly, an owner has the option to slash salary cap by converting cap money into guaranteed up front? If this is the case, what's the point of a salary cap? Not that I'm complaining (since this helps us) but theoretically, the cap can be loopholed as deep as an owner's pockets go... correct? I wonder why more owners don't do this... I guess Danny boy is just too rich to even care about parting with guaranteed money. |
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| | #25 | |
| Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md.
Posts: 4,832
| Re: Cooley Restructures Quote:
For the reasons you state, should we be happy to have an owner like Dan Snyder, or would you rather John Cooke had bought the team? For the sake of some owners, I'm sure they're most happy there is a salry cap because if there weren't Dan Snyder would really show them what he could do with his money. He'd field an all star team at every position from top to bottom. | |
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| | #26 | |
| Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina
Posts: 5,998
| Re: Cooley Restructures Quote:
I don't ever see the Redskins getting into cap trouble as long as Danny has deep pockets. My question is, what would happen if this "share the wealth" program between owners in the league goes sour, and we have an uncapped year? I've heard we'd have to dump players left and right, but I guess I just don't understand the whole process.
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| Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maryland Age: 35
Posts: 237
| Re: Cooley Restructures That's awesome Cooley restructured his deal. Thanks Chris. Hopefully, the management won't let you down and get some quality players.
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| | #28 | |
| Franchise Player Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34
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| Re: Cooley Restructures Quote:
Straight forward Cash over cap Straight forward is as it seems. Not a ton of things like roster bonuses but they do have gradually escalating salaries. Put a good signing bonus on and you have players from the Eagles for example. Cash over cap means you pay a somewhat smaller signing bonus but have two or three roster bonuses down the line and pretty low salaries to start with pretty high salaries in the end. Example: straight forward: 5 year deal sb of 5 mil salaries 500k 1mil 1mil 1.5mil 1.5mil = 5.5mil cap numbers 1.5mil 2mil 2mil 2.5mil 2.5mil = 10.5mil cash over cap: 5 year deal sb of 3mil salaries 500k 500k 500k 1mil 3mil = 5.5mil rb yr2-1mil yr3-1mil = 2mil cap numbers 1.1mil 2.1mil 2.1mil 1.6mil 3.6mil = 10.5mil so the cap numbers are slightly different but overall the salaries are the same and guaranteed money is the same. then what happens in cash over cap is the roster bonuses get converted to signing bonuses which allows them to prorate so the cap numbers change to. 1.1mil 1.350mil 1.683mil 2.183mil 4.183mil so most of the money gets pushed forward. as the expensive years come up salaries are turned into bonuses and get prorated also and restuctures change some other stuff but in the end the only actual expensive year for a guy is his last. if you keep your expensive guys per year to just a couple it is very manageable in the end. Some would say you have more flexibility with the cash over cap method if you execute it well. It kills you thiugh if you have bad talent evaluation because you become more "stuck" with a guy. | |
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| | #29 | |
| Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25
Posts: 15,143
| Re: Cooley Restructures Quote:
Has Todd Wade been released already?
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| | #30 |
| Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,498
| Re: Cooley Restructures I'm not one of the doomsday guys, however I think we shall see if your theory is right...hopefully soon enough. If they can talk Springs in to helping out (because he refused last yr) then you can tell the future. lol. |
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