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Old 03-06-2009, 04:03 PM   #391
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Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009

I wish we had access to the nflpa database... cause all of these articles have vague interpretations or leave info out. that hogs piece gives the yearly salary and bonus prorations, but doesn't show where the monster 2013 cap hit is coming from (the base salary and bonus money WITH the option bonus still leave it 7mill short).

but between that and the extra 500k for golston, there's a possibility of ~3mill margin of error on the 2009 cap. but again, without a direct source of contract info, who knows...
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Old 03-06-2009, 04:33 PM   #392
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more info on dockery... which seems really weird:
The Dockery Contract - Redskins Insider
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more info on dockery... which seems really weird:
The Dockery Contract - Redskins Insider

I was surprised by that as well. If he turns out to be an upgrade from Kendall, he is a steal...
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Old 03-06-2009, 04:43 PM   #394
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more on the haynesworth deal from a former skins cap guy:
INSIDE THE CAP with J.I. Halsell
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more on the haynesworth deal from a former skins cap guy:
INSIDE THE CAP with J.I. Halsell
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Old 03-06-2009, 04:54 PM   #396
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It could use two improvements:

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Old 03-06-2009, 04:55 PM   #397
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Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009

that makes it look like 7mill in 2009, then 8.8mill in 2010 (6base + 5/5 2009, 3.6base + 5/5 + 21/5 2010)

i guess that meshes the best and all the money seems to be accounted for there. which means (after the golston correction) we might have 11.5-12mill free?

after reading the dockery deal and the better haynesworth info i don't know how JLC came up with 7mill...
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Old 03-06-2009, 07:19 PM   #399
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Is 11 million enough to sign any decent FA offensive linemen and cover our draftees?
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Old 03-06-2009, 07:26 PM   #400
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In the meantime, I figured I'd post the contract for the one offensive lineman they have signed, Derrick Dockery. Most interesting thing with this one is that there is no signing bonus. Zero. Zilch. No upfront money, which allowed them to keep the cap number low in 2009. However, it does include $8.2 million in guaranteed salaries between 2009-2011, so Dockery knows he will be getting that much for sure. Here's the breakdown of the contract:

Base Salary Cap Number
2009 - $3.2 million $3.2
2010 - $2.91 $4.16
2011 - $3.815 $5.065
2012 - $4.775 $6.025
2013 - $5.735 $6.985
Contract voids in 2014

Bonuses:
Dockery has a $1 million option bonus each year beginning in 2010
There are $250,000 workout bonuses in 2010, 2011 and 2012

Guarantees:
Dockery's 2009 salary is guaranteed, and $5 million of his 2010-2011 is guaranteed
Been analyzing this and it doesn't seem to make sense.

- NLFPA has Dock signed thru 2014. The contract can probably be voided before the 2014 season but it still counts for signing bonus allocation purposes.

- Why is Dock's cap hit $6.985 in 2013? His salary is $5,735. The $1M option bonus JLC mentions (really a roster bonus) brings his cap hit to $6,735. But he says there is no $250K workout bonus in 2013 so where is the $250K difference?

My guess is that Dock will receive a $5M signing bonus in 2010. This plus his $3.2M guaranteed 2009 salary accounts for the $8.2M guaranteed portion of the contract. The $5M signing bonus will be allocated $1M per year from 2010-2014. In addition he probably receives a $250K workout bonus each year of the deal starting in 2010. Using this model Dock's cap hits would match JLC's "base salary cap numbers".

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Old 03-06-2009, 07:45 PM   #401
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Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009

Ok I have made the following updates as per the latest articles posted above:

- Haynesworth $7.0M cap hit in 2009
- Dockery $3.2M cap hit in 2009
- Golston $1.545M 2nd round tender (up from $1.01M)
- Dirk Johnson $460K cap hit in 2009 (vet min)
- I still have Hall at $5.2M cap hit in 2009

With the above changes I have us at $12.27M of cap room.
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that makes it look like 7mill in 2009, then 8.8mill in 2010 (6base + 5/5 2009, 3.6base + 5/5 + 21/5 2010)

i guess that meshes the best and all the money seems to be accounted for there. which means (after the golston correction) we might have 11.5-12mill free?

after reading the dockery deal and the better haynesworth info i don't know how JLC came up with 7mill...
From his league source of course. Why do the work if you can call "someone" who can provide you with bad information!
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Old 03-06-2009, 08:43 PM   #403
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Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009

To give the benefit of the doubt to JLC, if you tack on a Rookie Pool amount of 2.5, and add Khary Campbell back, you are just about at 7, raise the Rookie Pool some and you are there. Personally I think it's just lazy math (you know 1 +1 is about 3, depending on how big an assumption you make)
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I am going with crazy canuck
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Old 03-06-2009, 10:33 PM   #405
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Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009

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Ok I have made the following updates as per the latest articles posted above:

- Haynesworth $7.0M cap hit in 2009
- Dockery $3.2M cap hit in 2009
- Golston $1.545M 2nd round tender (up from $1.01M)
- Dirk Johnson $460K cap hit in 2009 (vet min)
- I still have Hall at $5.2M cap hit in 2009

With the above changes I have us at $12.27M of cap room.
Top post in this thread updated for these refinements.

Gee, Haynesworth at 7.0 this year. Who'd a thunk it? Oh wait, the Warpath did (Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009)!

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