How will chris samuels's retirement affect our cap?

tryfuhl · 12-06-2009, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by skinster

Good info. Didnt know about that 6 year thing. What would the salaries of the restricted FA's be?

On a side note, I don't buy that whole 3-4 year thing. The average is that low because of the vast amount of players who arent good enough to play for more than a season or two. I dont view these guys professional football players, they will not make a living off the NFL. Anyone who is any good (worth picking up in FA) plays significantly longer

To an extent sure. But think of how everyone is saying a RB hits 30 and is basically done. You get him around 27-28 and he's going to go for somewhere likely that offers 4-5 years top dollar, so you can end up with 3 years where you're not getting much from him potentially, then you release him and take the hit on the signing bonus.

DIE-NASTY · 01-25-2010, 08:24 PM

thanks for the info. You guys answered a bunch of my questions on this matter.

Dirtbag59 · 01-25-2010, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

It's unlikely the players will agree to put a cap back in place once it's gone.

What's the reasoning for this?

53Fan · 01-25-2010, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

What's the reasoning for this?

I don't know for sure Dirtbag, but I would think it would be because it puts a restriction on salaries. We lose guys because of the cap. We can't afford to pay them but so much under the cap without having to cut other players or lose them because we can't match the offers from other teams with a cap in place.

tootergray34 · 01-25-2010, 10:36 PM

I hope we cut randle el

LandrySlice · 01-25-2010, 11:38 PM

^ me too, he is one of the number ones in my crosshairs!

Monkeydad · 01-26-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tootergray34

I hope we cut randle el

Definitely.

Moss can be our new slot WR and PR.

over the mountain · 01-26-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Well look at baseball, do you see their players association asking for a salary cap to prevent teams like the Royals and Marlins from paying out only like 30 million in payroll expenses?

They don't do that because on the whole, the absence of a cap has driven player salaries up at a faster rate than would have otherwise been the case.

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baseballs working on that. i think the league even set a cap floor to force teams like the marlins to spend more on payroll b/c the marlins owners made a profit by paying his players nothing (30 mil) while receiving (70 mil) in shared revenue.

so before the marlins ever sell a ticket or hot dog, they have already profited thanks to teams like the yankees.

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i think samuels is due for an evaluation in feb where he said he will know for sure whether he will retire or not. man, i hope he gets good news and can play.

Redskins8588 · 01-26-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

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baseballs working on that. i think the league even set a cap floor to force teams like the marlins to spend more on payroll b/c the marlins owners made a profit by paying his players nothing (30 mil) while receiving (70 mil) in shared revenue.

so before the marlins ever sell a ticket or hot dog, they have already profited thanks to teams like the yankees.

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i think samuels is due for an evaluation in feb where he said he will know for sure whether he will retire or not. man, i hope he gets good news and can play.

With the current salary cap in the NFL there too is a league min that each team must meet. I believe its something like 70% or 80% of the cap limit.

Also, as for Sauels I agree with you I hope that he can play, but as the team moves forward they need to keep in the back of their mind that Samuels isn't getting any younger...

mlmdub130 · 01-26-2010, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

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baseballs working on that. i think the league even set a cap floor to force teams like the marlins to spend more on payroll b/c the marlins owners made a profit by paying his players nothing (30 mil) while receiving (70 mil) in shared revenue.

so before the marlins ever sell a ticket or hot dog, they have already profited thanks to teams like the yankees.

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i think samuels is due for an evaluation in feb where he said he will know for sure whether he will retire or not. man, i hope he gets good news and can play.

don't get your hopes up on him coming back

CRedskinsRule · 01-26-2010, 06:59 PM

Come March 5th, or once the cap is dead, there will be a flurry of retirements/cuts, Chris should be one of the retirees. He was/is awesome, and should go into the Redskins Ring as soon as possible, but our team needs to move forward now.

DIE-NASTY · 01-26-2010, 07:33 PM

why would he come back? Neck injuries are no joke and he should take that seriously plus he has a fat check coming his way from re-negotiating his contract. He's had a great career and he'll be missed.

over the mountain · 01-27-2010, 12:24 PM

Redskins’ Chris Samuels to Decide Future in February

this isnt the article i reaad, the one i read was much more in-depth about his re-evaluation in feb. but it hits the gist.

samuels retiring looks more likely than not, but there is still a chance he will come back. im torn. i really really want him to come back and if he and the doctors decide he can then im with it . .. but im scared as hell for him if he does.

CRedskinsRule · 01-29-2010, 08:51 AM

Here is a good analysis of the upcoming uncapped year by J I Halsell, especially in regards to the expectation of a new CBA. He talks about the possibility of there being some charge against the 2011 cap (which he believes will be in the next CBA) for 2010 uncapped moves.
It is all speculation, but he certainly has the knowledge and background to make credible statements:

Uncapped Bonanza For Redskins Unlikely, Says Expert

01-25-2010, 08:24 PM	#32
DIE-NASTY Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: OCEAN PINES, MD Posts: 121	Re: How will chris samuels's retirement affect our cap? thanks for the info. You guys answered a bunch of my questions on this matter.

01-25-2010, 10:36 PM	#35
tootergray34 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 681	Re: How will chris samuels's retirement affect our cap? I hope we cut randle el

01-25-2010, 11:38 PM	#36
LandrySlice Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: AFGHANISTAN Posts: 334	Re: How will chris samuels's retirement affect our cap? ^ me too, he is one of the number ones in my crosshairs! __________________ Don't tase me bro!!!!

01-26-2010, 06:59 PM	#41
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,920	Re: How will chris samuels's retirement affect our cap? Come March 5th, or once the cap is dead, there will be a flurry of retirements/cuts, Chris should be one of the retirees. He was/is awesome, and should go into the Redskins Ring as soon as possible, but our team needs to move forward now.

01-26-2010, 07:33 PM	#42
DIE-NASTY Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: OCEAN PINES, MD Posts: 121	Re: How will chris samuels's retirement affect our cap? why would he come back? Neck injuries are no joke and he should take that seriously plus he has a fat check coming his way from re-negotiating his contract. He's had a great career and he'll be missed.

01-27-2010, 12:24 PM	#43
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: baltimore Posts: 2,670	Re: How will chris samuels's retirement affect our cap? Redskins’ Chris Samuels to Decide Future in February this isnt the article i reaad, the one i read was much more in-depth about his re-evaluation in feb. but it hits the gist. samuels retiring looks more likely than not, but there is still a chance he will come back. im torn. i really really want him to come back and if he and the doctors decide he can then im with it . .. but im scared as hell for him if he does. __________________ Fails to lock onto the defender, at times, preferring to violently shove his target to the ground and look for others.

01-29-2010, 08:51 AM	#44
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,920	Re: How will chris samuels's retirement affect our cap? Here is a good analysis of the upcoming uncapped year by J I Halsell, especially in regards to the expectation of a new CBA. He talks about the possibility of there being some charge against the 2011 cap (which he believes will be in the next CBA) for 2010 uncapped moves. It is all speculation, but he certainly has the knowledge and background to make credible statements: Uncapped Bonanza For Redskins Unlikely, Says Expert

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