Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant

Pocket$ $traight · 03-23-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So does this pave the way to take Suh/McCoy at #4 assuming one of them is there and Bradford and/or Okung are not? Because all this time I've been thinking, and I kind of still do, there's no point really in taking either of those guys. But now...makes you wonder

I would say we certainly aren't pigeonholed into a pick now. That being said, we will probably take the safety... ;-)

SmootSmack · 03-23-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Am I incorrect in thinking Suh/McCoy would be square pegs in a round hole for the 3-4? I think AH will fit well (and actually like) a 3-4 DE. It's being an NT that really seems to upset/not fit Haynesworth.

Smoot -- any thoughts on if Mt. Cody will still be around in the 2nd round for us? He'd be a great 1-2 punch with Keamantu to rotate NTs.

Yeah I think he'll be there, and if we traded down in the first we could also possibly look at Dan Williams. I don't know that I would but it's possible

SmootSmack · 03-23-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Even if we still have Haynesworth, if McCoy or Suh are there at 4 we should only consider two options:

1) Trading down (we'll have tons of suitors)
2) Drafting Suh or McCoy

Anything else would require reaching too far to fill a need IMO.

So i have a hypothetical situation for everyone. Lets say

where the Rams took Bradford, the Lions took Okung, and a team (perhaps Buffalo), fearing that we'd take Clausen, traded with Tampa Bay to draft the increasingly overrated QB. With both Suh and McCoy on the board, we might not end up with any offers to trade down and we'd be stuck at 4.

Who would you draft?

Are the options just Suh and McCoy in your question?

GMScud · 03-23-2010, 01:08 PM

Great stuff there. On a side note, I'm still baffled at how much money D'Angelo Hall has been paid since he's been in the league.

Redskins_P · 03-23-2010, 01:12 PM

Effing genius. What a great read!

Can we trade Haynesworth tomorrow?

CRedskinsRule · 03-23-2010, 01:25 PM

Very good analysis, but one thing he said that I have trouble with, is the part about the release of the 10 players. That clearly could not have happened in a salary cap environment, or we would have be in true cap hell instead of skirting it as we have done these past so many years. That allowed us to clean the slate. AH and DH's renegotiations may allow us more flexibility going into the future, but dropping 30.5 million in dead weight players is a huge benefit for the team. I can't wait to see how the new CBA deals with all this money we've shuffled around. Maybe they will have a "Redskins Accounting Clause"!

BigHairedAristocrat · 03-23-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Are the options just Suh and McCoy in your question?

no, any player... except cj spiller

53Fan · 03-23-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

no, any player... except cj spiller

Whatcha gonna do now Smooty?

SmootSmack · 03-23-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

no, any player... except cj spiller

Hater

Good question. I know OT is a need but I wouldn't really reach for Williams, Bulaga, or Brown. Which I think we would be doing if we took any of them at 4 (though my own mock still has us taking TW at 4). I'm all for BPA in the first round, but within reason. Within reason meaning I wouldn't, for example, take Eric Berry unless Landry is gone. So I guess the same philosophy would apply then to Suh and McCoy.

So I guess I'd say...Rolando McLain? No, probably not even him at #4

Tough question

SmootSmack · 03-23-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

Whatcha gonna do now Smooty?

Find the loophole...and suggest we draft Clifford Spiller Jr.

53Fan · 03-23-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Hater

Good question. I know OT is a need but I wouldn't really reach for Williams, Bulaga, or Brown. Which I think we would be doing if we took any of them at 4 (though my own mock still has us taking TW at 4). I'm all for BPA in the first round, but within reason. Within reason meaning I wouldn't, for example, take Eric Berry unless Landry is gone. So I guess the same philosophy would apply then to Suh and McCoy.

So I guess I'd say...Rolando McLain? No, probably not even him at #4

Tough question

Just curious, would you consider Joe Haden, taking into account Hall's renegotiated contract? Or do you feel Barnes has got us covered in case we need him?

SmootSmack · 03-23-2010, 01:54 PM

I would have considered Haden for sure about two months ago. I'm not as sold on him now, not at #4

Mattyk · 03-23-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Great stuff there. On a side note, I'm still baffled at how much money D'Angelo Hall has been paid since he's been in the league.

You wanna be baffled check out how much L. Coles has been paid over the course of his career.

53Fan · 03-23-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I would have considered Haden for sure about two months ago. I'm not as sold on him now, not at #4

I'm assuming because of his 40 time? I agree that #4 would be too high. Especially with the other talent that will be available.

SBXVII · 03-23-2010, 02:00 PM

We have holes all over the board. I guess they would know best how to fill those holes. I'd still prefer one of the more top ranked QB's vs. settling for a piece of work and hoping he developes within a year, but I do have concerns about our NT's injuries and will he be ready to start or even if he is will he be able to hold up. Then there is the issue of rotation. He's going to want to be relieved once and a while.

My concerns in order are:

QB
OL
NT
LB
NT

and what ever else we need. You could almost interchange the LB and NT spot depending on depth in the draft.

03-23-2010, 01:08 PM	#19
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Age: 34 Posts: 12,623	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Great stuff there. On a side note, I'm still baffled at how much money D'Angelo Hall has been paid since he's been in the league. __________________ Insert witty signature here

03-23-2010, 01:12 PM	#20
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sterling, VA Age: 34 Posts: 4,065	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Effing genius. What a great read! Can we trade Haynesworth tomorrow?

03-23-2010, 01:25 PM	#21
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 11,026	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Very good analysis, but one thing he said that I have trouble with, is the part about the release of the 10 players. That clearly could not have happened in a salary cap environment, or we would have be in true cap hell instead of skirting it as we have done these past so many years. That allowed us to clean the slate. AH and DH's renegotiations may allow us more flexibility going into the future, but dropping 30.5 million in dead weight players is a huge benefit for the team. I can't wait to see how the new CBA deals with all this money we've shuffled around. Maybe they will have a "Redskins Accounting Clause"!

03-23-2010, 01:54 PM	#27
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,225	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant I would have considered Haden for sure about two months ago. I'm not as sold on him now, not at #4 __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-23-2010, 02:00 PM	#30
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant We have holes all over the board. I guess they would know best how to fill those holes. I'd still prefer one of the more top ranked QB's vs. settling for a piece of work and hoping he developes within a year, but I do have concerns about our NT's injuries and will he be ready to start or even if he is will he be able to hold up. Then there is the issue of rotation. He's going to want to be relieved once and a while. My concerns in order are: QB OL NT LB NT and what ever else we need. You could almost interchange the LB and NT spot depending on depth in the draft.

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