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Old 07-11-2011, 11:39 PM   #31
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All Smootsmack did last year was talk about how we were going to go after Peppers and how Peppers was a lock to come here then free agency starts and we get no Peppers. Smootsmack was terrible on that one. Even after he signed with the Bears Smoot shifted gears to, "Dude just watch we're going to find a way to trade for Peppers before the trade deadline in a four team trade that will also get the Skins Justin Smith and Chase Daniel."
LOL! I also said there was no way we'd sign Grossman and Torain and trade for Brown. Damn me!

I still want Smith and Chase here
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:08 AM   #32
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The Bills would be absolutely dumb to let one of their leaders and truly solid players go.
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:13 AM   #33
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I was fidgeting around with this the other day just to see how far cap dollars would go, so that this could be made into a blog post.

Here's what I actually wrote down:

QB Caleb Hanie (2011 cap: $1.4 mil)
QB Rex Grossman (2011 cap: $1.0 mil) (non-guaranteed)
RB Jerious Norwood (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
FB Vonta Leach (2011 cap: $1 mil)
RG Mike Brisiel (2011 cap: $.9 mil)
RT Ryan Harris (2011 cap: $1.6 mil)
NT Alan Branch (2011 cap: $.6 mil)
DE Cullen Jenkins (2011 cap: $2.5 mil)
LB Chris Wilson (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
LB Matt Roth (2011 cap: $1.3 mil)
LB HB Blades (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB William Gay (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB Philip Buchanon (2011 cap: $1 mil)
S Reed Doughty (2011 cap ($.9 mil)

Total cap money spent on UFA $13.8 million
Players added: 14

If you want to pencil in Nnamdi, you're going to have to put away about $7 million of 2011 cap space to do so. That would seem to make the Bucs the only team that is actually "likely" to get him. The Raiders and Cowboys are going to be hard pressed to match a best offer, the Lions feel like they're going to be priced out of the market for him, the Texans are going hard after him but if it comes down to best offer, Tampa almost certainly can beat it.
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Old 07-12-2011, 08:13 AM   #34
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LOL! I also said there was no way we'd sign Grossman and Torain and trade for Brown. Damn me!

I still want Smith and Chase here
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Old 07-12-2011, 08:58 AM   #35
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Would they make the same mistake again? Doubt it but we'll see. Different people calling the shots now too.
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:51 AM   #36
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Re: How to spend our money?

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I was fidgeting around with this the other day just to see how far cap dollars would go, so that this could be made into a blog post.

Here's what I actually wrote down:

QB Caleb Hanie (2011 cap: $1.4 mil)
QB Rex Grossman (2011 cap: $1.0 mil) (non-guaranteed)
RB Jerious Norwood (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
FB Vonta Leach (2011 cap: $1 mil)
RG Mike Brisiel (2011 cap: $.9 mil)
RT Ryan Harris (2011 cap: $1.6 mil)
NT Alan Branch (2011 cap: $.6 mil)
DE Cullen Jenkins (2011 cap: $2.5 mil)
LB Chris Wilson (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
LB Matt Roth (2011 cap: $1.3 mil)
LB HB Blades (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB William Gay (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB Philip Buchanon (2011 cap: $1 mil)
S Reed Doughty (2011 cap ($.9 mil)

Total cap money spent on UFA $13.8 million
Players added: 14

If you want to pencil in Nnamdi, you're going to have to put away about $7 million of 2011 cap space to do so. That would seem to make the Bucs the only team that is actually "likely" to get him. The Raiders and Cowboys are going to be hard pressed to match a best offer, the Lions feel like they're going to be priced out of the market for him, the Texans are going hard after him but if it comes down to best offer, Tampa almost certainly can beat it.
Gtripp, I think your estimates are way off. Next year veterans are slated to make more than ever due to the raised salary floor, salary cap increase, the lowered rookie wage scale, and the shortened time to sign veterans will raise the price in a battle.

Keeping in mind that this years numbers contracts should be significantly larger than in the past, lets take a sample of veteran contracts from last year to compare to.

Kemo made 3.2, Rabach made 2.4, Hicks made 1.8, Golston made 1.8 (tendered), Heyer made 1.7, Wilson made 1.7, Buchanon made 1.5, Montgomery made 1.2, Sellers made 1.1, Daniels made 0.9, and Alexander made 0.9.

I don't see very many of your numbers being accurate considering many of the players you mentioned were significantly more talented than the players I just mentioned, and are making less in their first year of their contract (compare cullen jenkins 1st year of 2.5 to kemos 1st year of 3.2) when they are more talented, which demand a higher price tag, and are participating in a market which will demand significantly higher contracts for veterans.

Look at what comparable veterans have made in the past to the players you mentioned in their first year. Add a minimum of a million on to that and that is what that should be a more accurate indication of what their 2011 cap number should be.

Not to mention we need to hit the salary floor also.

P.S. There is no way Nnamdi is making 7 mil in any year of his contract. I've heard reports that he will be making 18 mil a year, which even if that is not true, it should still be way too high for him to make 7 mil in any year of his contract.
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:59 AM   #37
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Would they make the same mistake again? Doubt it but we'll see. Different people calling the shots now too.
I think the best bet of him leaving buffalo would be him just wanting to leave. With Fletcher hindsight is 20/20, and yes they should have kept him, but at the time it wasn't the worst move in the world to let him walk. He was 31 years old at the time, and wanted a 5 year deal. Buffalo being a small market team, I'd say made the right decision in letting their older player walk due to their restricted budget.
Not to mention the patriots philosophy of not resigning older players works out pretty well for them. Let players leave while their still good (and get compensation in the draft) as opposed to keep them around until they get bad. Something the redskins never learned (Jon Jansen, Randy Thomas, Bruce Smith, need I go on?).

I know this site too well and I know people will not read my post in depth, I just want to emphasize that I did say they made the wrong move by not resigning him (in hindsight).
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:17 PM   #38
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Fletcher is a rare exception. Buffalo did the right thing letting Fletcher go. More often or not, you'll get burned 8 times out of 10 if you signed a 32 year old ILB to a big money contract. Not good odds and generally not a smart thing to do. It's just fortunate for us that the guy has played his heart out, which is probably why he's lasted as long as he has. Posluszny on the other hand is 26 years old. You can't compare the two.
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:45 PM   #39
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Posluszny would be a fantastic player i think it would be adding more fire to the great flame our line backing core will be. I would be uber ecstatic. With Ike Taylor Brian Membeane and cullen Jenkins our D will be scary
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Old 07-12-2011, 02:00 PM   #40
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Pos might not have the option with Buffalo might not be able to afford him
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Old 07-12-2011, 02:03 PM   #41
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Pos will not be a redskin, he wants to be back in Buffalo where he's the star on a bad team, or in a 4-3 defense like the Eagles, Jags, or Giants. Membane is a 4-3 DT, not a NT, and Seattle wants to resign him. He played NT in college but is better suited for the 4-3.
Seattle plays an overshifted 4-3 a lot which means that Mebane has essentially played NFL nose tackle a lot and done it well. If Seattle doesn't want him, he would fit quite well with us.
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Old 07-12-2011, 02:11 PM   #42
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Hey also Mark Herzlich the undrafted rookie who was once an All American at Boston College, would be a great option that is cheap and the kid has a ton of heart after his cancer stint. He would be fantastic
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Old 07-12-2011, 02:36 PM   #43
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whats the harm in signing one undrafted free agent who has question marks? He was once amazing and he will try like crazy to get better. No harm if he doesnt pan out and we cut him.
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whats the harm in signing one undrafted free agent who has question marks? He was once amazing and he will try like crazy to get better. No harm if he doesnt pan out and we cut him.
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Thanks Hog1 for backing me up. and from what i've heard he has improved more and more since his fall from cancer
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