NFL taking away Redskins cap space

mooby · 03-12-2012, 05:18 PM

This is definitely f'd up. I'm not so much concerned about how we'll make up the cap space as I am about the fact a bunch of loser-ass crybaby owners ganged up on us and The Rog essentially did their bidding. I'm definitely not an expert on any stretch but I think we can all agree this reeks of collusion, and the league is basically punishing us for not colluding with the rest of the owners. I hope the Redskins file some sort of legal proceedings that would enable us to get the fine lowered or something. It's pretty ridiculous.

Darrell_Green_28 · 03-12-2012, 05:19 PM

hmm doesnt have to be 18 mil each yr... couldnt they do like 10 mill this yr leaving us with 21mill and the rest next yr?... im sure between now and then they can restructure some players again and such to accomadate that.. am i correct to think in all actuallity they can take 1 mill this yr and 30 next?

mlmdub130 · 03-12-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

No. I just play one on TV.

Yes. I am lawyer, but labor law is a world unto itself in many ways and not my area of expertise. At the same time, for all the reasons stated in this thread, it seems to me to be a clear violation of the prior CBA and collusion among the owners to avoid the ramifications of their prior agreement.

Further, has a negative impact on the current players. As someone else already stated, the Skins had money in hand and were ready to spend. I think the current NFLPA should be pretty upset about this as it is harmful to the current UFA's out there.

Not sure what, if any, the legal recourse is for the Skins. Maybe an injunctive action alleging that the NFL is punishing them for not acting illegally.

all other teams aside from the saints, raiders and cowboys will all receive a check from the redskins. thats the reason the nflpa went along with this, the money still gets spent just not by us. so we are giving the giants and the eagles botha bout 1.5 million for them to spend in free agency, you can go ahead and vomit now.

Lotus · 03-12-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Maybe they'll reverse it

A reverse seems unlikely. But the NFLPA likely would not complain about a lessening of the penalty now that the salary cap has been set.

Ruhskins · 03-12-2012, 05:22 PM

Aaaaaaaaand here is the answer to my own question:

Andrew Brandt ‏ @adbrandt Reply Retweeted Favorite · Open
All NFL contracts are approved by the NFL Management Council. Curious that there is now punishment for these contracts.

skinster · 03-12-2012, 05:25 PM

I want blood....or multiple first rounders as compensation. SUE SUE SUE!

Ruhskins · 03-12-2012, 05:26 PM

For those of you on Twitter, feel free to Tweet #FireGoodell

Mattyk · 03-12-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

id prefer not to restructure and just take our lumps now. restructuring to get under the cap is what got us into perpetual cap hell before.

When was that?

Paintrain · 03-12-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

hmm doesnt have to be 18 mil each yr... couldnt they do like 10 mill this yr leaving us with 21mill and the rest next yr?... im sure between now and then they can restructure some players again and such to accomadate that.. am i correct to think in all actuallity they can take 1 mill this yr and 30 next?

From what I've seen the teams can spread it as they determine over the next two years. Either way this is a kick squarely in the nuts.

SirClintonPortis · 03-12-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

This is definitely f'd up. I'm not so much concerned about how we'll make up the cap space as I am about the fact a bunch of loser-ass crybaby owners ganged up on us and The Rog essentially did their bidding. I'm definitely not an expert on any stretch but I think we can all agree this reeks of collusion, and the league is basically punishing us for not colluding with the rest of the owners. I hope the Redskins file some sort of legal proceedings that would enable us to get the fine lowered or something. It's pretty ridiculous.

We've been saving those owners from diaster by taking those overpaid and overrated free agents off the market and this is how the repay us.

Ruhskins · 03-12-2012, 05:29 PM

A tweet about possible restructures...

Grant Paulsen ‏ @granthpaulsen
If #Redskins end up asking some of higher-paid plyrs to re-structure, Trent Williams could be candidate. '12 cap number is team-high $14 MM.

**insert munchies joke here**

Paintrain · 03-12-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

A few restructures here and there, and we're probably right back in the ballpark of where we were.

Anyone know our contract exposure for 2013? If I recall we limited most guarantees past 2011 so maybe they can take a $10 mil hit now and rework things over the next 12 months to account for their remaining $26 mil.

WilbursHomie · 03-12-2012, 05:33 PM

So at this point, it's 100 percent factual that the Haynesworth signing was the worst signing in the history of football? It's no longer just opinion. I mean, that contract is bordering on being worse than not drafting Michael Jordan with the first pick in the NBA draft.

JWsleep · 03-12-2012, 05:35 PM

So the cheaper owners finally found a way to take some skin off of Danny and Jerry. **** it.

I'm with Matty: every time the league or the press or whoever try to stop us from spending lots of money, we find a way to do it. We have the most creative money people in the biz. We'll find a way to get ours. This is the one thing we've been consistently good at over the last decade.

Wonder how the next owners meeting is going to go?

skinsfaninok · 03-12-2012, 05:37 PM

Tk and Wilbon seem like RGIII isn't worth what we gave, wilbon went on to say "anything the skins do is a mistake "

03-12-2012, 05:18 PM	#151
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 25 Posts: 11,209	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space This is definitely f'd up. I'm not so much concerned about how we'll make up the cap space as I am about the fact a bunch of loser-ass crybaby owners ganged up on us and The Rog essentially did their bidding. I'm definitely not an expert on any stretch but I think we can all agree this reeks of collusion, and the league is basically punishing us for not colluding with the rest of the owners. I hope the Redskins file some sort of legal proceedings that would enable us to get the fine lowered or something. It's pretty ridiculous.

03-12-2012, 05:19 PM	#152
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Age: 44 Posts: 1,949	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space hmm doesnt have to be 18 mil each yr... couldnt they do like 10 mill this yr leaving us with 21mill and the rest next yr?... im sure between now and then they can restructure some players again and such to accomadate that.. am i correct to think in all actuallity they can take 1 mill this yr and 30 next? __________________ Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

03-12-2012, 05:22 PM	#155
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,614	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space Aaaaaaaaand here is the answer to my own question: Andrew Brandt ‏ @adbrandt Reply Retweeted Favorite · Open All NFL contracts are approved by the NFL Management Council. Curious that there is now punishment for these contracts. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

03-12-2012, 05:25 PM	#156
skinster Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 754	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space I want blood....or multiple first rounders as compensation. SUE SUE SUE!

03-12-2012, 05:26 PM	#157
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,614	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space For those of you on Twitter, feel free to Tweet #FireGoodell __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

03-12-2012, 05:29 PM	#161
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,614	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space A tweet about possible restructures... Grant Paulsen ‏ @granthpaulsen If #Redskins end up asking some of higher-paid plyrs to re-structure, Trent Williams could be candidate. '12 cap number is team-high $14 MM. insert munchies joke here __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

03-12-2012, 05:33 PM	#163
WilbursHomie Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 316	So at this point, it's 100 percent factual that the Haynesworth signing was the worst signing in the history of football? It's no longer just opinion. I mean, that contract is bordering on being worse than not drafting Michael Jordan with the first pick in the NBA draft.

03-12-2012, 05:35 PM	#164
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 44 Posts: 4,576	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space So the cheaper owners finally found a way to take some skin off of Danny and Jerry. **** it. I'm with Matty: every time the league or the press or whoever try to stop us from spending lots of money, we find a way to do it. We have the most creative money people in the biz. We'll find a way to get ours. This is the one thing we've been consistently good at over the last decade. Wonder how the next owners meeting is going to go? __________________ Hail from Houston!

03-12-2012, 05:37 PM	#165
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 13,044	Tk and Wilbon seem like RGIII isn't worth what we gave, wilbon went on to say "anything the skins do is a mistake " __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

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