NFL taking away Redskins cap space

mlmdub130 · 03-12-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Don't waste your hate on him, he's an entertainer. Once a writer becomes a TV personality quit looking at them as a journalist. He says things that get a reaction and is paid well for it. Rule of thumb, opinions shared on any show where media is interviewing media (First Take, Around The Horn, PTI, most sports talk radio, etc) doesn't hold any weight past the commercial break.

i feel my hate on him isn't wasted, he's a tool. over!! rated!!

JWsleep · 03-12-2012, 05:57 PM

Wilbon doesn't like the skins and the skins don't like Wilbon. Old news--but **** em again.

Probably the biggest dick thing about this is the timing: the DAY before FA starts. That's just to **** with us and the cowroids.

But given that we knew we pissed people off by dumping the AH and DH money, I am sure we're ready for this. Not that we're Ok with it, but we've got contingencies. Atogwe and others are getting their calls, people are being asked about restructuring, clever contracts are being drawn up for our target FAs, etc.

This will cost us a player or two, no doubt, which is ****ed up. But this part of the CBA was aimed at Danny and Jerry and the trap is being sprung now. Bet Danny and Jerry are getting a little tired of carrying some of the weaker franchises with their money.

(Oh, and yeah: AH was the worst thing EVER. This is penance for signing that douche. Pay the fine and move on.)

Ruhskins · 03-12-2012, 05:58 PM

Hopefully this will be good news...

Chris Russell ‏ @Russellmania980
The @NFL doesn't say in the statement they released that the #Redskins can't appeal, which I have to think Dan/Bruce/Mike will try & do

mlmpetert · 03-12-2012, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

I hate Michael Wilbon with all my soul !

Yeah he's a complete POS

Wilbon cold as ice on Sean Taylor — The Sports Note

JWsleep · 03-12-2012, 06:03 PM

From Maske:

Officials of the league and the NFL Players Association agreed to the reduction in the salary cap for the two teams in deliberations over the past week, said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic.

The union agreed to the resolution reluctantly, the person said. Union officials believe that neither team did anything wrong or attempted to circumvent the salary cap. But the union acquiesced to the decision because the league would have lowered the salary cap for all 32 teams if it did not.

Instead, the salary cap space taken from the Redskins and Cowboys was redistributed among other NFL teams. The salary cap for next season was set at $120.6 million per team.

The "officials of the league". Hmmm. Guess they're not skins or cowboys!

mlmdub130 · 03-12-2012, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Yeah he's a complete POS

Wilbon cold as ice on Sean Taylor — The Sports Note

case and point, guys a douche, him not backing down on his taylor comments are what really did it for me. the guy thinks he knows everything.

GMScud · 03-12-2012, 06:06 PM

Wow, I can't believe this thread has nearly 200 posts already.

I'm sure it's been said, but I'm really miffed that there wasn't any specific rule that was broken. We lose $36M because we violated an "understanding?" Don't all deals have to be approved by the league? So the league approves these deals then drops a bomb on us for it?

Swarley · 03-12-2012, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWsleep

From Maske:

Officials of the league and the NFL Players Association agreed to the reduction in the salary cap for the two teams in deliberations over the past week, said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic.

The union agreed to the resolution reluctantly, the person said. Union officials believe that neither team did anything wrong or attempted to circumvent the salary cap. But the union acquiesced to the decision because the league would have lowered the salary cap for all 32 teams if it did not.

Instead, the salary cap space taken from the Redskins and Cowboys was redistributed among other NFL teams. The salary cap for next season was set at $120.6 million per team.

The "officials of the league". Hmmm. Guess they're not skins or cowboys!

Ridiculous... I expect a shit storm coming the NFL's way.

GMScud · 03-12-2012, 06:09 PM

This is such cut and dry collusion, it's pretty preposterous.

I don't like Roger Goodell one bit.

mlmdub130 · 03-12-2012, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWsleep

From Maske:

Officials of the league and the NFL Players Association agreed to the reduction in the salary cap for the two teams in deliberations over the past week, said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic.

The union agreed to the resolution reluctantly, the person said. Union officials believe that neither team did anything wrong or attempted to circumvent the salary cap. But the union acquiesced to the decision because the league would have lowered the salary cap for all 32 teams if it did not.

Instead, the salary cap space taken from the Redskins and Cowboys was redistributed among other NFL teams. The salary cap for next season was set at $120.6 million per team.

The "officials of the league". Hmmm. Guess they're not skins or cowboys!

has anyone actually seen or heard of the salary cap being reduced? i thought it was acutally up from last year? what were they going to reduce the salary cap to if the owners weren't forced into this deal?

Mechanix544 · 03-12-2012, 06:10 PM

This HAS to be illegal. I mean, even though Goodell rules with an iron fist, there are laws that must be followed in business practices. It just stinks of collusion to me.

Mechanix544 · 03-12-2012, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmdub130

has anyone actually seen or heard of the salary cap being reduced? i thought it was acutally up from last year? what were they going to reduce the salary cap to if the owners weren't forced into this deal?

I think its only up like a quarter of a million dollars from where it was last season.

And from what I am gathering, the NFLPA has to agree to the salary cap before the start of each season. The OWNERS made the NFLPA agree to this under pain of a reduced salary cap for all teams, reduced by like 3-4 million per team unless they agreed to the terms for the punishment for the 4 teams, the skins, cowboys, and no 1.6 million dollar cuts for the saints and raiders, who apparently adopted the same practices the skins and cowgirls did, but not to such an extent. The other owners and Goodell were the driving force behind this.

sdskinsfan2001 · 03-12-2012, 06:11 PM

My personal preference is to cut some high cost players, restructure some contracts, sign a lot of younger (cheap) players and just take the full hit this year and get it over with.

We got RGIII, and I will NOT let this kill my buzz. Hail.......

IrMitchell · 03-12-2012, 06:14 PM

Won't stand, a verbal warning isn't enough in the courts.

Hog1 · 03-12-2012, 06:15 PM

Be interesting to see what the Skins official response will be....
A little bit of a downer to be sure on the eve of Free Agency. But as has been stated, I do not believe for a moment that this has taken anybody at Redskin Park by surprise and I fully expect the team to acquire what they need in FA in a plan B mode.
If nothing else, over the years Dan and the team have proven to be salary Cap masters....always doing what the rest of the league said could not get done without ever falling into the always predicted salary cap....Hell.
No doubt contributing to the jealousy we see and the subsequent piling on of the other owners at this time?

03-12-2012, 05:57 PM	#182
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 44 Posts: 4,576	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space Wilbon doesn't like the skins and the skins don't like Wilbon. Old news--but ** em again. Probably the biggest dick thing about this is the timing: the DAY before FA starts. That's just to with us and the cowroids. But given that we knew we pissed people off by dumping the AH and DH money, I am sure we're ready for this. Not that we're Ok with it, but we've got contingencies. Atogwe and others are getting their calls, people are being asked about restructuring, clever contracts are being drawn up for our target FAs, etc. This will cost us a player or two, no doubt, which is **ed up. But this part of the CBA was aimed at Danny and Jerry and the trap is being sprung now. Bet Danny and Jerry are getting a little tired of carrying some of the weaker franchises with their money. (Oh, and yeah: AH was the worst thing EVER. This is penance for signing that douche. Pay the fine and move on.) __________________ Hail from Houston!

03-12-2012, 05:58 PM	#183
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,593	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space Hopefully this will be good news... Chris Russell ‏ @Russellmania980 The @NFL doesn't say in the statement they released that the #Redskins can't appeal, which I have to think Dan/Bruce/Mike will try & do __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

03-12-2012, 06:03 PM	#185
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 44 Posts: 4,576	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space From Maske: Officials of the league and the NFL Players Association agreed to the reduction in the salary cap for the two teams in deliberations over the past week, said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic. The union agreed to the resolution reluctantly, the person said. Union officials believe that neither team did anything wrong or attempted to circumvent the salary cap. But the union acquiesced to the decision because the league would have lowered the salary cap for all 32 teams if it did not. Instead, the salary cap space taken from the Redskins and Cowboys was redistributed among other NFL teams. The salary cap for next season was set at $120.6 million per team. The "officials of the league". Hmmm. Guess they're not skins or cowboys! __________________ Hail from Houston!

03-12-2012, 06:06 PM	#187
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Age: 34 Posts: 12,623	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space Wow, I can't believe this thread has nearly 200 posts already. I'm sure it's been said, but I'm really miffed that there wasn't any specific rule that was broken. We lose $36M because we violated an "understanding?" Don't all deals have to be approved by the league? So the league approves these deals then drops a bomb on us for it? __________________ Insert witty signature here

03-12-2012, 06:09 PM	#189
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Age: 34 Posts: 12,623	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space This is such cut and dry collusion, it's pretty preposterous. I don't like Roger Goodell one bit. __________________ Insert witty signature here

03-12-2012, 06:10 PM	#191
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,044	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space This HAS to be illegal. I mean, even though Goodell rules with an iron fist, there are laws that must be followed in business practices. It just stinks of collusion to me. __________________ Ain't Nothin Like a Good B Western. YEEHAW

03-12-2012, 06:11 PM	#193
sdskinsfan2001 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 29 Posts: 453	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space My personal preference is to cut some high cost players, restructure some contracts, sign a lot of younger (cheap) players and just take the full hit this year and get it over with. We got RGIII, and I will NOT let this kill my buzz. Hail.......

03-12-2012, 06:14 PM	#194
IrMitchell Impact Rookie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 629	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space Won't stand, a verbal warning isn't enough in the courts. __________________ One of Canada's two Redskins fans.

03-12-2012, 06:15 PM	#195
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,376	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space Be interesting to see what the Skins official response will be.... A little bit of a downer to be sure on the eve of Free Agency. But as has been stated, I do not believe for a moment that this has taken anybody at Redskin Park by surprise and I fully expect the team to acquire what they need in FA in a plan B mode. If nothing else, over the years Dan and the team have proven to be salary Cap masters....always doing what the rest of the league said could not get done without ever falling into the always predicted salary cap....Hell. No doubt contributing to the jealousy we see and the subsequent piling on of the other owners at this time? __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

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