NFL taking away Redskins cap space

IrMitchell · 03-12-2012, 06:39 PM

How are the Bears unaffected? They gave Peppers an unreal amount of money in the uncapped year.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-12-2012, 06:41 PM

Another thing pissing me off is that not only are the Redskins and Cowboys punished, but other teams are REWARDED.

Drewsky27 · 03-12-2012, 06:41 PM

If d Hall is cut how much cap will we get back?

GMScud · 03-12-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The Redskins are still in an advantageous cap position in spite of this decision by the NFL, which is something the Cowboys are not. What this decision does do is make contention in 2012 behind the strength of a 90th percentile FA class unrealistic. Time to re-assess and look to catch some declining NFC East teams in 2013.

Which was arguably the better plan to begin with.

I heard on the radio today that if we split the $36M hit 50-50 with this year and next, we'll still have more cap room than all the other teams in the division, however they all already have more talented rosters.

Good news is we currently only have $83M on the book next year.

GTripp0012 · 03-12-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

En ingles por favor.

The Redskins' quickest way to contend was sign a bunch of really good free agents, and get lucky enough that it all comes together in year one and they can contend on the backs of other team's castoffs. But now, the financial situation -- while still adventageous -- forces the Redskins to pick and choose their battles.

Curtis Lofton? Sure, but no London Fletcher. Vincent Jackson? Sure, but maybe Cooley is asked to restructure. Cortland Finnegan? Gotta get rid of Hall. And the backup QB is probably coming out of the bargain bin now.

bertoskins2 · 03-12-2012, 06:45 PM

ouch. we badly need to make good use of our remaing picks in the draft.

GTripp0012 · 03-12-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

I heard on the radio today that if we split the $36M hit 50-50 with this year and next, we'll still have more cap room than all the other teams in the division, however they all already have more talented rosters.

Good news is we currently only have $83M on the book next year.

Right. We're not in bad cap position at all. We're just in the bottom five team in the league in talent that's returning from last year (not counting our UFAs like Landry.

If you take the AV (approximate value) ratings of everyones roster going back to 2009, and just add it up to create a "veteran talent power rankings" the NFL looks like this at the moment:

Green Bay - 582
Philadelphia - 530
Pittsburgh - 522
Atlanta - 509
Houston - 490
New England - 488
New Orleans - 477
NY Jets - 466
Dallas - 466
Baltimore - 449
San Francisco - 447
Chicago - 434
San Diego - 432
Detroit - 420
NY Giants - 414
Jacksonville - 413
Miami - 412
Carolina - 408
Arizona - 407
Tennessee - 381
Buffalo - 380
Minnesota - 371
Kansas City - 370
Oakland - 361
Denver - 343
Cincinnati - 326
Tampa Bay - 316
Washington - 315
Cleveland - 315
Seattle - 289
St. Louis - 287
Indianapolis - 199

That's current as of Sellers' release. So yeah, there's a gap in the NFC between the haves the four have nots.

I'll repost this list after everyone's cuts come in. It will change significantly.

Mayor · 03-12-2012, 06:48 PM

I still don't know what rule they supposedly broke.

Dirtbag59 · 03-12-2012, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMScud

I heard on the radio today that if we split the $36M hit 50-50 with this year and next, we'll still have more cap room than all the other teams in the division, however they all already have more talented rosters.

Good news is we currently only have $83M on the book next year.

So are we subtracting $18 million from $47 million to get $29 million in cap space before cuts and restructures?

IrMitchell · 03-12-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Another thing pissing me off is that not only are the Redskins and Cowboys punished, but other teams are REWARDED.

It's truly mind blowing isn't it? I've never seen something like this.

When the New Jersey Devils were punished for front loading Ilya Kovalchuks contract, they were punished 1 first round pick. That first round pick could be from either the 2010,11,12,13 draft.

Redskins get 36 million dollars which essentially takes them out of free agency for two seasons, and the rest of the leagues pockets free money? Unreal.

mbedner3420 · 03-12-2012, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

En ingles por favor.

Hahahaha I was thinking the same thing

SBXVII · 03-12-2012, 06:51 PM

Ok, so how is it the NFL fails to mention this from Sept. to March? and waits until the eve of Free Agency to announce that they are going to take away mill. of $$$?

Spirit or not if it's not in the rules that says they can't do it then the Skins did nothing wrong. If I'm DS I'm filing an appeal. Hope that the appeal would keep the NFL from doing anything until after we've picked up our players and have had a chance to have a lawyer prove they did nothing wrong.

How they going to all of a sudden come up with some BS about how it violated the spirit of the rules. Heck the Skins did that for years when they back loaded contracts and there was no penalty for that.

Chico23231 · 03-12-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayor

I still don't know what rule they supposedly broke.

exactly. a verbal agreement between the league and other owners in an uncapped year. its amazing what Vladamir Goodell has gotten away with...cant believe this bullshit 24 hours before free agency

Dirtbag59 · 03-12-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mbedner3420

Hahahaha I was thinking the same thing

Lol, yeah Tripp is probably the smartest guy here, it's just sometime he enjoys speaking in calculus while the rest of us are left dazed and confused.

SBXVII · 03-12-2012, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The Redskins' quickest way to contend was sign a bunch of really good free agents, and get lucky enough that it all comes together in year one and they can contend on the backs of other team's castoffs. But now, the financial situation -- while still adventageous -- forces the Redskins to pick and choose their battles.

Curtis Lofton? Sure, but no London Fletcher. Vincent Jackson? Sure, but maybe Cooley is asked to restructure. Cortland Finnegan? Gotta get rid of Hall. And the backup QB is probably coming out of the bargain bin now.

"F" that. Draft another QB in the 3rd and have two Rookies to develope. Atleast they would be young and healthy.

03-12-2012, 06:39 PM	#211
IrMitchell Impact Rookie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 629	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space How are the Bears unaffected? They gave Peppers an unreal amount of money in the uncapped year. __________________ One of Canada's two Redskins fans.

03-12-2012, 06:41 PM	#212
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,119	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space Another thing pissing me off is that not only are the Redskins and Cowboys punished, but other teams are REWARDED. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-12-2012, 06:41 PM	#213
Drewsky27 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 40	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space If d Hall is cut how much cap will we get back?

03-12-2012, 06:45 PM	#216
bertoskins2 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Age: 39 Posts: 260	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space ouch. we badly need to make good use of our remaing picks in the draft.

03-12-2012, 06:48 PM	#218
Mayor Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 56	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space I still don't know what rule they supposedly broke.

03-12-2012, 06:51 PM	#222
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space Ok, so how is it the NFL fails to mention this from Sept. to March? and waits until the eve of Free Agency to announce that they are going to take away mill. of $$$? Spirit or not if it's not in the rules that says they can't do it then the Skins did nothing wrong. If I'm DS I'm filing an appeal. Hope that the appeal would keep the NFL from doing anything until after we've picked up our players and have had a chance to have a lawyer prove they did nothing wrong. How they going to all of a sudden come up with some BS about how it violated the spirit of the rules. Heck the Skins did that for years when they back loaded contracts and there was no penalty for that.

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