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Old 03-12-2012, 06:59 PM   #226
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Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space

In class right now but just had to add my semi-confused, fully infuriated "WTF?!?". Can't really add much that hasn't already been said, but every part of this just pisses me off. Anyways... back to the lecture.
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:59 PM   #227
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ouch. we badly need to make good use of our remaing picks in the draft.
Whereas before we could have pissed them away willy nilly?

I would like to see the team push $26 mil into 2013 and sue the NFL, the other owners, the mgmt council and the NFLPA for collusion. This whole thing reeks of BS.
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:59 PM   #228
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How are the Bears unaffected? They gave Peppers an unreal amount of money in the uncapped year.
This is what I don't get? The Skins were not the only team that tried to benifit from the lack of a CBA. and how can the NFL enforce something that was not in place?
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:01 PM   #229
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This is what I don't get? The Skins were not the only team that tried to benifit from the lack of a CBA. and how can the NFL enforce something that was not in place?
I guess the Giants owner didn't see it benefiting them much since they don't play in the NFC East?
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:02 PM   #230
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So basically if this thing comes to pass without any change, can the owners just get together when a team wins the Super Bowl multiple times in a row and just say "in the spirit of parity, we're cutting your cap substantially!"?
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:02 PM   #231
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This is what I don't get? The Skins were not the only team that tried to benifit from the lack of a CBA. and how can the NFL enforce something that was not in place?
This is the Bears plan as I alluded to earlier in the day. Last time we tried to acquire a weapon in the passing game the Bears outbid us. This time they knew they wouldn't be able to outbid us again for VJax so they did the next best thing.

Anyway new plan. Draft Vontaze Burfict, put him on Redskins One and have him pay a visit to every owner except ironically.....Dallas.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:08 PM   #232
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Admittedly, I had to look up collusion. This is the 100% definition. JoeRedskin will be able to tell us for sure. It's the combination of reward to other teams, disregard for what the numbers MIGHT have been and the timing of this.

I just can't imagine this was a perfect storm. SUCH BULLSHIT.
Soo, your saying when the NFL read the contracts and approved them they didn't feel the need to deny the contracts and inform the Skins that it was collusion at the time? Instead they approved the contracts. Then instead of informing the Skins anywhere form Sept to now they wait until March 12th, the eve of Free Agency to say "oh by the way we are taking away some of your money because we made a mistake and allowed contracts to go through that were collusion? WTF?

This screams of someone being pissed that the Skins made a trade for RGIII and still have a ton of money to get a specific player that they would like to see go elsewhere. If nothing else "IF" the NFL chooses to punish the Skins then they should make it apart of NEXT yrs salary CAP and the year after not all of a sudden out of the blue right before we are planning to spend money that the NFL originally said we had.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:10 PM   #233
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According to Redskins Nation on CSN this stinks but really doesn't derail us
You know who it does suck for big time? OJ and Sellers
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:11 PM   #234
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Yessir. Basically we're bent over a barrel at the most inopportune time for FA. We most likely had a plan in place and now we're scrambling due to this bullshit.

I need to calm down, I just haven't been this pissed with something Skins-related in a while.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:12 PM   #235
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This is completely unacceptable.

Reading some of the comments in the section of the PFT article. There was a guy who made the case that this is the best evidence brought forward so far where the league is in collusion.

The owners had a wink wink deal in place to not forgo some money in the uncapped year, but these two owners did it anyway because there was no document binding them not too. If this gets to a legal case, there can be a very good case made by our team to get these fines reduced or dropped.

What is really getting in my crawl is that the other 28 teams in the NFL get to spend our money? WTF is that. We are going to reward everyone else for what the Skins and Boys did wrong.

This is ridiculous and has just ruined our chances of competing any time soon.
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This is the Bears plan as I alluded to earlier in the day. Last time we tried to acquire a weapon in the passing game the Bears outbid us. This time they knew they wouldn't be able to outbid us again for VJax so they did the next best thing.

Anyway new plan. Draft Vontaze Burfict, put him on Redskins One and have him pay a visit to every owner except ironically.....Dallas.
I guess I'm not getting your last part about Dallas, they are getting screwed also. We'd be better served having them on our side :vomit: for the moment because aparently they did the same thing and the NFL approved their contracts also. Shouldn't the NFL be punished for passing the contracts to the sum of $36 mill dollars and tell them they can spread it over 2 yrs if they'd like?
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Admittedly, I had to look up collusion. This is the 100% definition. JoeRedskin will be able to tell us for sure. It's the combination of reward to other teams, disregard for what the numbers MIGHT have been and the timing of this.

I just can't imagine this was a perfect storm. SUCH BULLSHIT.
Im thinking the way the NFL sees it is that the Redskins didnt necessarily sign a new player during 2010 to a massive FA contract. Rather they just "dumped" money of existing contracts of players that were already under contract, in order to free up money in future years and to get in good fiscal shape.

Still collusion. Still ridiculous. But i can see why other owners, even though acting cullusive, would be upset. But complete bs
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:14 PM   #238
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TOS says our FO was blindsided by this

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Old 03-12-2012, 07:16 PM   #239
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I guess I'm not getting your last part about Dallas, they are getting screwed also. We'd be better served having them on our side :vomit: for the moment because aparently they did the same thing and the NFL approved their contracts also. Shouldn't the NFL be punished for passing the contracts to the sum of $36 mill dollars and tell them they can spread it over 2 yrs if they'd like?
No I'm sending Vontaze to meet with the 30 other owners who are reaping the benefits of Cap Gate. One of which WILL NOT be Jerry Jones. He gets a pass this time.

Maybe I'll send him to meet DeMaurice Smith. All that crap during the lockout about leverage and making things difficult and for this he just bends over.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:18 PM   #240
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The union signed off on punishing the teams that didn't illegally conspire to hold their compensation down in 2010?

Classy, real classy.
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