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Old 03-13-2012, 12:03 AM   #376
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^ You're definitely overreacting
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:04 AM   #377
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Anyone wanna bet that they put out the punishment at 3.6 mil tomorrow and blame the reports on a misplaced decimal?
I doubt it but I sure as hell hope so.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:05 AM   #378
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except the NFLPA can't arbitrarily make up rules and enforce them...
You sure about that?
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:07 AM   #379
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The multiple defenses the Redskins can use aside here, 30 owners acting as the NFL can in-fact decide to impose penalties on unwritten rules. That's what the NBA did essentially when they rejected the Chris Paul-Lakers trade (although in that case, the league actually owned one of the teams).

It will be interesting to see if the Redskins can successfully defend themselves. If they're going to defend themselves by litigation, I have no idea how they plan to do that.

If they plan to just reject the penalty on the grounds that the league approved all their moves when made according to the old CBA, I do think the league will have a difficult time forcing this penalty on them. I question whether the league is powerful enough to make the Redskins and Cowboys comply.
But your talking about a league that looked at a trade scenario and said no you can't do it. They didn't approve it and later cry foul.

The NFL had every opportunity to contact both teams and say "you can't do that" or reject the contracts/deals that were made. But they didn't. They approved them and now later the other teams are crying fould cause they don't have as much money to spend and now they want the NFL to penalize both teams in order to make them competative with the Skins and Cowboys. You can't do that.

By the way, the CBA had expired. What they had basically was a gentlemans agreement if you'd call it that and the league approved the deals.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:10 AM   #380
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You sure about that?
Yeah, that's why there's a CBA. The NFL can make up rules about player safety and things like that, but I'm pretty sure they can't just make up salary cap rules on the fly.
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You sure about that?
the players association? yeah, what's the last arbitrary thing they've done without league consent that's stuck?
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:11 AM   #382
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Secondly why are the teams sending their contract deals to the League for approval if they are not going to look at them and determine if it's legal or not? Sounds like someone is getting paid to do a job and they are not doing their job. If they are not going to preview the contracts then there is no need to send them to the NFL.
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But your talking about a league that looked at a trade scenario and said no you can't do it. They didn't approve it and later cry foul.

The NFL had every opportunity to contact both teams and say "you can't do that" or reject the contracts/deals that were made. But they didn't. They approved them and now later the other teams are crying fould cause they don't have as much money to spend and now they want the NFL to penalize both teams in order to make them competative with the Skins and Cowboys. You can't do that.

By the way, the CBA had expired. What they had basically was a gentlemans agreement if you'd call it that and the league approved the deals.
The NBA also owns the team who's trade they rejected. Owners can veto trades their GMs make, and that's basically what happened there, though the owner being the league made it seem like something else.
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Yeah, that's why there's a CBA. The NFL can make up rules about player safety and things like that, but I'm pretty sure they can't just make up salary cap rules on the fly.
They usually don't make up playing rules like that either. It's brought up at owners meetings and discussed and voted on then put into action the following year not midseason.
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Yeah, that's why there's a CBA. The NFL can make up rules about player safety and things like that, but I'm pretty sure they can't just make up salary cap rules on the fly.
I wouldn't have thought so either, but have you been following the news this afternoon?
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Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space

I'm going to go over to Matty's house and steal the rest of his cake because I verbally warned him three days ago that if he ate another piece, he'll gain five pounds.
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OK been out for a few( new baby boy) so what's the latest on this cap crap?
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I'm going to go over to Matty's house and steal the rest of his cake because I verbally warned him three days ago that if he ate another piece, he'll gain five pounds.
sounds fair to me, as long as i get a slice.
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Anyone wanna bet that they put out the punishment at 3.6 mil tomorrow and blame the reports on a misplaced decimal?
I'll take that action. This will not be resolved or altered tomorrow.
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But your talking about a league that looked at a trade scenario and said no you can't do it. They didn't approve it and later cry foul.

The NFL had every opportunity to contact both teams and say "you can't do that" or reject the contracts/deals that were made. But they didn't. They approved them and now later the other teams are crying fould cause they don't have as much money to spend and now they want the NFL to penalize both teams in order to make them competative with the Skins and Cowboys. You can't do that.

By the way, the CBA had expired. What they had basically was a gentlemans agreement if you'd call it that and the league approved the deals.
Even though they approved it, that doesn't mean they can't hit back later if the new CBA stipulates they can, or more accurately, if the new CBA doesn't prohibit them for doing so.

The big issues here are that: 1) this penalty is being applied very inconsistently and 2) NFL teams attempted to collude.

I'll give you an example of something they did put in the new CBA: they took out the poison pill-contract guarantee. That was collectively bargained. No one put a poison pill contract in during the uncapped year BECAUSE teams were colluding (and had been for years). But also because they feared retribution.
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