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Old 03-12-2012, 11:21 PM   #391
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:21 PM   #392
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sounds fair to me, as long as i get a slice.
Yeah a 30% of the pie slice AHAHAHAHAAHA. Being Commissioner is GREATTTTTTTTTTTT!
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:22 PM   #393
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OK been out for a few( new baby boy) so what's the latest on this cap crap?
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:23 PM   #394
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:23 PM   #395
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lol, i'm never committing a crime with you.
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:25 PM   #396
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In all seriousness I'm hearing, and seeing, on NFL Network and NFL.com no mention of the story. Hard to believe though that Adam S would get and then report bad information.
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:27 PM   #397
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Also, anyone know who is on this committee currently? Mara chairs it, but that's all I know.

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They made the decision, apparently.
Not sure who's on it these days. Know Jerry Richardson, Al Davis, and Mark Murphy were on it. Obviously one of them no longer is
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:29 PM   #398
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Even though they approved it, that doesn't mean they can't hit back later if the new CBA stipulates they can, or more accurately, if the new CBA doesn't prohibit them for doing so.

The big issues here are that: 1) this penalty is being applied very inconsistently and 2) NFL teams attempted to collude.

I'll give you an example of something they did put in the new CBA: they took out the poison pill-contract guarantee. That was collectively bargained. No one put a poison pill contract in during the uncapped year BECAUSE teams were colluding (and had been for years). But also because they feared retribution.
I disagree. I think you're, at best, on shaky ground when you try to punish people for something that was perfectly within the rules when it was done.

I agree that something that makes it even harder is that they're in effect trying to punish the Redskins and Cowboys for not going along with what was really an illegal policy.

I think the other element here is that all the parties that have decided to punish these teams (The other teams and NFLPA) stand to personally gain from the process. Imagine if a state started paying jurors more for every guilty verdict, how quickly those sentences would get thrown out.
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Not sure who's on it these days. Know Jerry Richardson, Al Davis, and Mark Murphy were on it. Obviously one of them no longer is
Aw, poor Jerry Richardson. Needed more time to focus on running the Panthers huh?
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sounds fair to me, as long as i get a slice.
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:32 PM   #401
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What does The trade have to do with this?
It's simple. Right now we've got all our hopes on ONE guy. How were they going to improve the team this year? Free agency. Well that's somewhat out the window. IMO one guy can't do it. I'm getting my picks...that will give me both of Cleveland's number 1's this year, maybe a second this year and a one next year. That's 4 young guys that I can build around and add to the mix.

Instead we've can't spend in free agency, which probably isn't a good idea anyway cause it never works, and we've got no high draft picks the next couple of years. Sorry but I'm taking option one. I know it's not going to happen but still, that's what I'd do.
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OK been out for a few( new baby boy) so what's the latest on this cap crap?
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It's simple. Right now we've got all our hopes on ONE guy. How were they going to improve the team this year? Free agency. Well that's somewhat out the window. IMO one guy can't do it. I'm getting my picks...that will give me both of Cleveland's number 1's this year, maybe a second this year and a one next year. That's 4 young guys that I can build around and add to the mix.

Instead we've can't spend in free agency, which probably isn't a good idea anyway cause it never works, and we've got no high draft picks the next couple of years. Sorry but I'm taking option one. I know it's not going to happen but still, that's what I'd do.
We still have cap space and great cap guys. Free agency isn't done for us.
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:40 PM   #405
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I disagree. I think you're, at best, on shaky ground when you try to punish people for something that was perfectly within the rules when it was done.

I agree that something that makes it even harder is that they're in effect trying to punish the Redskins and Cowboys for not going along with what was really an illegal policy.

I think the other element here is that all the parties that have decided to punish these teams (The other teams and NFLPA) stand to personally gain from the process. Imagine if a state started paying jurors more for every guilty verdict, how quickly those sentences would get thrown out.
At the time, I think it was understood by teams that even though there was no cap in 2010, there would be a good chance that teams would not know the full extent of how deals signed in 2010 would be treated by the new CBA; that those effects would need to be collectively bargained.

What is unclear is whether these penalties are a result of something the NFL and NFLPA agreed to in writing, or whether they just agreed to it within the last week. And, per the language of the CBA (which I have not read), maybe they can actually do this at any time. But the role of the NFLPA in this disaster sure makes it look like that these sanctions have been collectively bargained.
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