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Old 03-13-2012, 09:52 AM   #481
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I would agree that some people are over-reacting in terms of judging our ability to continue to operate in a competitive manner but you seem to be entirely nonchalant about this which is really curious to me. The league is taking 15% of our cap space away over the next two years. If you think that doesn't have a significant affect on our ability to compete then you're fooling yourself. Your under-reaction is on par with their over-reaction. They are taking 15% that we can never get back...restructures or not that cap space is gone forever even if we figure out clever tricks for pushing it all out into future years. Restructuring doesn't make the 36 mil go away it just spreads it out over however many years and saddles us with less cap money then.

The world is not ending but we are unfairly getting screwed. Does it not at least make you mad?
Not sure how my middle of the road view compares with the silly doom and gloom of some folks. Yeah it hurts but are we totally out of free agency now?

Sorry that I'm not screaming to tar and feather Goodell, it's a shitty situation but it's a workable one. And it's one that the Skins should have seen as a possibility of coming to fruition. Fair or not it's something we have to deal with one way or another.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:53 AM   #482
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NFL Draft. (RG3 +)
Fletcher (To me this is a priority)

How much money do we have after this?
Lots. Check out the other threads from people who actually know what they are talking about (i.e. Schneed, CrazyCanuck). Seriously, on this site, we have a couple of the best cap guys on the web. When they say "Chill", you can take it to the bank. We went from being in an amazingly, superfantabulous position to being in a solidly good one.

While I am incensed by the whole "Let's arbitrarily change the rules to punish those who didn't help us do something illegal", as others have pointed out, it is simply not the end of the world. RGIII's contract is not going to be like rookies of old and Fletch will get a solid, but not breathtaking deal.

It's wrong, but we will be okay capwise regardless of the out come.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:53 AM   #483
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Thanks, but there's no chance we get London at 6 and Carriker at 2.5.
Depends on how you structure those deals.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:54 AM   #484
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I said they took away free agency from us. I'm sure you're aware of what's going on, how are you not frustrated by this?
They haven't taken it away from us. No matter how you slice it we still have more than a little cap space to makes moves. I mean the concept isn't rocket-science.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:54 AM   #485
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do you think we will go into this FA like nothing has happend and just putt of the 36 mill until next year since we belie e we haven't done anything wrong and try and fight it before then? that's what I got from our statement, that our mindset is the same and nothing has changed
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I'm disrespecting him, really? Lol.



And, if we're being totally honest, there is no Salary Cap Central thread (the one you're posting in) if not for CrazyCanuck
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:58 AM   #487
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Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space

Even during the years where the Redskins over spent freely and were always in cap hell or close to it, they still were able to sign guys (regardless if they were over the hill or not) so I'm not worried that the Redskins will still be able to take advantage of free agency this year and next. But FRPLG does bring up a good point. This does affect the Redskins, even somewhat over those years of restructure, so I'll be curious to see how the front office is able to work that out over the years. I have not doubt the 'skins will be just fine, but they should definitely fight this.
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One day removed from the news and my blood pressure and BAC has come down to a point where I can look at this with a more level head. Yes it is still very upsetting and I feel it is unfair, but we can let the lawyers fight that fight. In the end we will still have money to spend this year, 22 million if we take half the hit this year (I would think that taking more of the hit would be a good idea since we have so much cap room) and that is enough to start filling some holes on the roster!

Part of my, and I am assuming others, overreaction was based on the the roller coaster of being so high over RG3 and hoping things were looking up for us and then getting initial reports that all but 4 million of our cap space was gone (remember the very first reports did not say it could be spread out over 2 years....or I was too angry to comprehend)

As long as we can resign Fletcher and make a serious run at Winston and VJ or another top flight WR I will be fine.
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do you think we will go into this FA like nothing has happend and just putt of the 36 mill until next year since we belie e we haven't done anything wrong and try and fight it before then? that's what I got from our statement, that our mindset is the same and nothing has changed
That's what you'd think, but it doesn't seem like an option anymore.

NFL already took 18 million, which is essentially their way of trying to get the Redskins to agree with it in one way or another.
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I'd be entirely happy with this as a solution.

Take half now and half next year then give it back to us the following two years and remove it from the other teams cap space accordingly. We're in good enough position now that in 3 and 4 years we could probably use the space better.
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Let's assume for a moment that the ruling of the owners stands as is and the penalty remains in force(and that may not be the case in the end).
If we had not dumped dumped Albert's money and front loaded Hall's contract (and whatever we are accused of)
....what would our Cap position be today?
CC? Gtripp?
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I said they took away free agency from us. I'm sure you're aware of what's going on, how are you not frustrated by this?
But they didn't. And sure I'm frustrated, but the universe says deal and you deal
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Good read.

This part really pisses me off: "The Cowboys and the Redskins, to a greater extent (my underlining) than the league's other 30 teams, ignored these warnings and engaged in such behavior anyway."

So, most teams were guilty of ignoring the warnings of punishment for not colluding against the union but only the Redskins and Cowboys were punished. Isn't guilty an absolute? You're either guilty or you're not. Only the punishments should be a matter of degrees. Yet, 28 teams (some of whom were probably guilty of ignoring the warnings) were rewarded with more cap space. Other guilty teams were actually rewarded!

This entire action by the NFL stinks to high heaven.
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That's what you'd think, but it doesn't seem like an option anymore.

NFL already took 18 million, which is essentially their way of trying to get the Redskins to agree with it in one way or another.
What is the bolded statement based on?
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And, if we're being totally honest, there is no Salary Cap Central thread (the one you're posting in) if not for CrazyCanuck
It's pretty hard to sense a joke/sarcasm in a thread this serious, but ok fair enough.
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