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Old 03-13-2012, 10:38 AM   #511
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While Fletch is a priority, he's not going to get that 8-9mil/year figure he's looking for. (especially now)
Maybe not from us.
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:41 AM   #512
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I guess my next question is how is that Allen nor the Boys's have not received something official yet? It is just media putting this out there? Has to be something from the commish office right?
They won't send it in writing because it's not legal and it will prove collusion if they do. This is not gonna hold up in court that's why the Redskins need to get an injunction...fighting it after they lose out on the players they want to sign does them no good.
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:41 AM   #513
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No...as of the statement made last night (around 8PM) by BA the team had not been officially notified.

One would think that ahs changed by now though. Or not I guess.
The NFL confirmed that they have been notified. i think clark judge reported on it as well and its been linked several times.
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:42 AM   #514
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I think I'm just as confused. The teams were supposedly made aware of the penalty. BA says they were not at around 8pm. Today the NFL takes 18 mill. WTF.

As has been stated why did they wait until 24 hrs prior to FA? They cold have done this back in Sept. Oct. Nov. Dec. Jan. Feb. and they wait till after the Skins announce a trade with the Rams, awaiting approval, and 24 hrs. prior to FA. All to force their hand. BS.

I'll say it again. If there was an agreement by the owners then there was collusion amongst owners during the time of the negotiations and the NFLPA needs to step up and file a grievance. If there was no agreement (which the NFL wanted everyone to believe at the time to get the new CBA signed) then you can't come out now and cry foul over something they approved in order to not get suit and change their tune now.
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The NFL confirmed that they have been notified. i think clark judge reported on it as well and its been linked several times.
In writing?
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They won't send it in writing because it's not legal and it will prove collusion if they do. This is not gonna hold up in court that's why the Redskins need to get an injunction...fighting it after they lose out on the players they want to sign does them no good.
in theory and principle, i wholeheartedly agree with you. however, i am 99% sure that this is not a matter that can be litigated, so court isnt an option. the skins could probably appeal to goodell and he will just say no. its awful, and im sure the skins will try to fight it somehow, but i'm not sure how. in the end, i dont see this being overturned. the league and players both approved it already. the most i can see happening is goodell allowing the skins and cowboys to spread the hit into 2014, when the cap will increase dramatically due to the new tv deals.
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The NFL confirmed that they have been notified. i think clark judge reported on it as well and its been linked several times.
I just went back and checked and did not see anything... do you have a link? The only one I found was Allen saying they abided by the rlues of the uncapped year. Just trying to get confrimation...
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I just went back and checked and did not see anything... do you have a link? The only one I found was Allen saying they abided by the rlues of the uncapped year. Just trying to get confrimation...
Schefter confirmed it on Mike and Mike, not sure what else I can say.
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In writing?

http://http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/...t-over-2-years

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Both teams contend they are innocent, with the Redskins saying they received no written confirmation of of 2012 salary-cap adjustments first reported by the media. However, sources indicate Washington was notified by Monday and the Cowboys earlier.
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Schefter confirmed it on Mike and Mike, not sure what else I can say.
It just doesn't seem right.... Everyone reporting it, but no confirmation from League...
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This is what I found.... and still no confirmation from the League.

Eye On Football - CBSSports.com NFL takes cap space from Cowboys, Redskins; teams deny wrong-doing
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I wholly expect the Redskins to file an injunction before 4 PM today.
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in theory and principle, i wholeheartedly agree with you. however, i am 99% sure that this is not a matter that can be litigated, so court isnt an option. the skins could probably appeal to goodell and he will just say no. its awful, and im sure the skins will try to fight it somehow, but i'm not sure how. in the end, i dont see this being overturned. the league and players both approved it already. the most i can see happening is goodell allowing the skins and cowboys to spread the hit into 2014, when the cap will increase dramatically due to the new tv deals.
What are you basing your belief that they can not fight this in court on? The league is penalized them for contracts that they approved in an UNCAPPED year. This is a slam dunk in court. There is nothing in the CBA that allows them to do this...
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in theory and principle, i wholeheartedly agree with you. however, i am 99% sure that this is not a matter that can be litigated, so court isnt an option. the skins could probably appeal to goodell and he will just say no. its awful, and im sure the skins will try to fight it somehow, but i'm not sure how. in the end, i dont see this being overturned. the league and players both approved it already. the most i can see happening is goodell allowing the skins and cowboys to spread the hit into 2014, when the cap will increase dramatically due to the new tv deals.
I see it being overturned or significantly mitigated. You are right: this is not really an issue for the courts or for Goodell. It is an issue for the owner's meetings at the end of the month. The owners can (and I expect will) reduce this to something smaller.
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What are you basing your belief that they can not fight this in court on? The league is penalized them for contracts that they approved in an UNCAPPED year. This is a slam dunk in court. There is nothing in the CBA that allows them to do this...
a) the other owners won't want their labor laundry aired in courts. Therefore a threat of a lawsuit alone might make them cave in.
b) Danny and Jerry aren't going to want to bite the NFL hand that feeds

So, whether there are salient legal issues or not, it is unlikely that this will see a courtroom.
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