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Old 03-13-2012, 02:39 PM   #586
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They should have fined the money out of pocket not the cap. Even though it's illegal the owners would have barely batted an eye and most likely paid the fine. That way the NFL would have gotten to send their message while not causing a huge uproar.

Sure with the antitrust exemption they might get away with this, but with the Boys and Skins getting ready to challenge the ruling the NFL is risking a big blow to their authority.

At this point it's basically a coin toss of who will come out on top even though the Skins and Boys have right on their side.

Either way Goodell is an evil mother f'er. Getting us to the point where we actually support Cowboy fans.
If this were really about a total of THREE contracts by the skins and cowboys, thats what they would have done. Its not like the league is doing this to set a precedent for similar situations in the future - hopefully there will never be an uncapped year again. I'm convinced this is really about something else and the league was looking for an "offense" to justify this particular punishment.
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Old 03-13-2012, 02:40 PM   #587
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If this were really about a total of THREE contracts by the skins and cowboys, thats what they would have done. Its not like the league is doing this to set a precedent for similar situations in the future - hopefully there will never be an uncapped year again. I'm convinced this is really about something else and the league was looking for an "offense" to justify this particular punishment.
The other teams want to make it easier for themselves to sign free agents by taking out the two biggest spenders.
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Old 03-13-2012, 02:44 PM   #588
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If this were really about a total of THREE contracts by the skins and cowboys, thats what they would have done. Its not like the league is doing this to set a precedent for similar situations in the future - hopefully there will never be an uncapped year again. I'm convinced this is really about something else and the league was looking for an "offense" to justify this particular punishment.
Pollian on SC basically said they can't ignore it because at a certain point the league will disapprove contracts. Of course he followed that up with "if you know a good antitrust lawyer I would call him."

I really hope the NFL gets their collective ass handed to them. After all the support we gave the owners during the lockout and this is the S they pull?
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The players were faced with losing 128 million in cap money for players or going along with an unethical and patently unfair scheme to stick it to rich owners spear-headed by a committee whose chair is a direct division rival. If that isn't the epitome of morally bankrupt then I don't what is. It is a monumental day when you can take the road BELOW Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones. It says a lot about the character of some of these owners. They're bad people.
So, I don't quite know how Dallas and us got targeted, BUT, this is what I think happened. The NFLPA (mainly D Smith whose election is coming up) could NOT have the salary cap go down after taking what has turned into a patently bad deal for a lot of players (lower cap, lower Franchise tags, deals not seeming to be as big) so the NFLPA pushed for a higher cap this year. By pushing the 1/2 down this year the league allowed for a higher cap, and some more room to all the teams. My guess is that once the NFLPA election is over, and this cap cycle is completed, the remainder of the penalty will be expunged, and the teams that got the credit will get a small debit next year when the cap will definitely go up. I wouldn't even be surprised if both JJ and DS were somehow involved, and some back handed favors will be called in later.

It's pretty convoluted high stakes poker focused on saving DSmith's tail and keeping him as the NFLPA exec now that he and Goodell have an "understanding".

None of this is fact, and ultimately only time will tell.
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Old 03-13-2012, 02:45 PM   #590
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I was thinking last night that the salary cap forum has probably had an all-time high in hits yesterday...even more today probably!

I know I have not even clicked on it for YEARS myself!
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Old 03-13-2012, 02:48 PM   #591
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You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Yes he should. Everyone knows you use the front page at thewarpath.net as it list the most recent topics regardless of forum. You don't use thewarpath.net/forum.php unless you're looking for a specific section or you've already been on the site.

This is against the unwritten rule we just made up. Posters who have been purposely ignoring the salary cap section will be docked 30% of their posts. Ergo Buster is being fined 3,517 post.
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You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
I'm sorry Canuck. If there's one thing this Redskins FO does extremely well, it's manage the salary cap. Which means we take being able to maneuver around the cap for granted.

Look on the bright side though, look at all the attention you are receiving for the amazing work you do illustrating our cap situation to us. Without this scandal you would've remained a diamond in the rough.
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I haven't gone through all the pages on this thread, but didn't the bears pay Peppers like 35 million that year? How is that any different.
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So, I don't quite know how Dallas and us got targeted, BUT, this is what I think happened. The NFLPA (mainly D Smith whose election is coming up) could NOT have the salary cap go down after taking what has turned into a patently bad deal for a lot of players (lower cap, lower Franchise tags, deals not seeming to be as big) so the NFLPA pushed for a higher cap this year. By pushing the 1/2 down this year the league allowed for a higher cap, and some more room to all the teams. My guess is that once the NFLPA election is over, and this cap cycle is completed, the remainder of the penalty will be expunged, and the teams that got the credit will get a small debit next year when the cap will definitely go up. I wouldn't even be surprised if both JJ and DS were somehow involved, and some back handed favors will be called in later.

It's pretty convoluted high stakes poker focused on saving DSmith's tail and keeping him as the NFLPA exec now that he and Goodell have an "understanding".

None of this is fact, and ultimately only time will tell.
Good thoughts. And JJ is apparently a member of the Management Council Executive Committee that handed out this decision.

Something I speculated yesterday a couple of people seem to think might be the case. That the Redskins knew there might be some ramifications, but they had to do what they did to get Haynesworth out of here. And they expected a slap on the wrist, at most.

It's like you're on your way to work but you're running late. And if you don't get there right at 8am, your boss doesn't pay you for the day (and let's say you make $160 for the day). So you decide I can be late and not get paid $160, or I can speed, get pulled over and get a $50 ticket. Next thing you know though you're charged with reckless driving, have to stay in jail overnight, get docked $150 and 2 points...
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I'm sorry Canuck. If there's one thing this Redskins FO does extremely well, it's manage the salary cap. Which means we take being able to maneuver around the cap for granted.
Apologies accepted. Salary Cap Central is a sausage-fest anyways.
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Old 03-13-2012, 02:59 PM   #597
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Apologies accepted. Salary Cap Central is a sausage-fest anyways.
But it is a necessary sausage-fest. I don't post often here because I am not the numbers guy that you are. But I do learn a lot from you so thanks for that. Understanding the cap is crucial for understanding the workings of our team.
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Old 03-13-2012, 03:01 PM   #598
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Apologies accepted. Salary Cap Central is a sausage-fest anyways.
Well thats because woman suck at math. They like to do arts and crafts and stuff. By the way what is this sexist word I keep hearing people call me?
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Old 03-13-2012, 03:01 PM   #599
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What is the point of having a salary cap if the NFL is just going to have a little meeting and fine you if they think you spent too much at one time. O well nothing is going to be done the NFL basically payed off the players association which I think is interesting.
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Well thats because woman suck at math.
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