NFL taking away Redskins cap space

Dirtbag59 · 03-13-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

If this were really about a total of THREE contracts by the skins and cowboys, thats what they would have done. Its not like the league is doing this to set a precedent for similar situations in the future - hopefully there will never be an uncapped year again. I'm convinced this is really about something else and the league was looking for an "offense" to justify this particular punishment.

Pollian on SC basically said they can't ignore it because at a certain point the league will disapprove contracts. Of course he followed that up with "if you know a good antitrust lawyer I would call him."

I really hope the NFL gets their collective ass handed to them. After all the support we gave the owners during the lockout and this is the S they pull?

CRedskinsRule · 03-13-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

The players were faced with losing 128 million in cap money for players or going along with an unethical and patently unfair scheme to stick it to rich owners spear-headed by a committee whose chair is a direct division rival. If that isn't the epitome of morally bankrupt then I don't what is. It is a monumental day when you can take the road BELOW Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones. It says a lot about the character of some of these owners. They're bad people.

So, I don't quite know how Dallas and us got targeted, BUT, this is what I think happened. The NFLPA (mainly D Smith whose election is coming up) could NOT have the salary cap go down after taking what has turned into a patently bad deal for a lot of players (lower cap, lower Franchise tags, deals not seeming to be as big) so the NFLPA pushed for a higher cap this year. By pushing the 1/2 down this year the league allowed for a higher cap, and some more room to all the teams. My guess is that once the NFLPA election is over, and this cap cycle is completed, the remainder of the penalty will be expunged, and the teams that got the credit will get a small debit next year when the cap will definitely go up. I wouldn't even be surprised if both JJ and DS were somehow involved, and some back handed favors will be called in later.

It's pretty convoluted high stakes poker focused on saving DSmith's tail and keeping him as the NFLPA exec now that he and Goodell have an "understanding".

None of this is fact, and ultimately only time will tell.

CrazyCanuck · 03-13-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeydad

I was thinking last night that the salary cap forum has probably had an all-time high in hits yesterday...even more today probably!

I know I have not even clicked on it for YEARS myself!

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Dirtbag59 · 03-13-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Yes he should. Everyone knows you use the front page at thewarpath.net as it list the most recent topics regardless of forum. You don't use thewarpath.net/forum.php unless you're looking for a specific section or you've already been on the site.

This is against the unwritten rule we just made up. Posters who have been purposely ignoring the salary cap section will be docked 30% of their posts. Ergo Buster is being fined 3,517 post.

Monkeydad · 03-13-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Why? I'm not Canadian.

mooby · 03-13-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

I'm sorry Canuck. If there's one thing this Redskins FO does extremely well, it's manage the salary cap. Which means we take being able to maneuver around the cap for granted.

Look on the bright side though, look at all the attention you are receiving for the amazing work you do illustrating our cap situation to us. Without this scandal you would've remained a diamond in the rough.

SKINSnCANES · 03-13-2012, 02:54 PM

I haven't gone through all the pages on this thread, but didn't the bears pay Peppers like 35 million that year? How is that any different.

SmootSmack · 03-13-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

So, I don't quite know how Dallas and us got targeted, BUT, this is what I think happened. The NFLPA (mainly D Smith whose election is coming up) could NOT have the salary cap go down after taking what has turned into a patently bad deal for a lot of players (lower cap, lower Franchise tags, deals not seeming to be as big) so the NFLPA pushed for a higher cap this year. By pushing the 1/2 down this year the league allowed for a higher cap, and some more room to all the teams. My guess is that once the NFLPA election is over, and this cap cycle is completed, the remainder of the penalty will be expunged, and the teams that got the credit will get a small debit next year when the cap will definitely go up. I wouldn't even be surprised if both JJ and DS were somehow involved, and some back handed favors will be called in later.

It's pretty convoluted high stakes poker focused on saving DSmith's tail and keeping him as the NFLPA exec now that he and Goodell have an "understanding".

None of this is fact, and ultimately only time will tell.

Good thoughts. And JJ is apparently a member of the Management Council Executive Committee that handed out this decision.

Something I speculated yesterday a couple of people seem to think might be the case. That the Redskins knew there might be some ramifications, but they had to do what they did to get Haynesworth out of here. And they expected a slap on the wrist, at most.

It's like you're on your way to work but you're running late. And if you don't get there right at 8am, your boss doesn't pay you for the day (and let's say you make $160 for the day). So you decide I can be late and not get paid $160, or I can speed, get pulled over and get a $50 ticket. Next thing you know though you're charged with reckless driving, have to stay in jail overnight, get docked $150 and 2 points...

CrazyCanuck · 03-13-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

I'm sorry Canuck. If there's one thing this Redskins FO does extremely well, it's manage the salary cap. Which means we take being able to maneuver around the cap for granted.

Apologies accepted. Salary Cap Central is a sausage-fest anyways.

Lotus · 03-13-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Apologies accepted. Salary Cap Central is a sausage-fest anyways.

But it is a necessary sausage-fest. I don't post often here because I am not the numbers guy that you are. But I do learn a lot from you so thanks for that. Understanding the cap is crucial for understanding the workings of our team.

Dirtbag59 · 03-13-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Apologies accepted. Salary Cap Central is a sausage-fest anyways.

Well thats because woman suck at math. They like to do arts and crafts and stuff. By the way what is this sexist word I keep hearing people call me?

donofriose · 03-13-2012, 03:01 PM

What is the point of having a salary cap if the NFL is just going to have a little meeting and fine you if they think you spent too much at one time. O well nothing is going to be done the NFL basically payed off the players association which I think is interesting.

FRPLG · 03-13-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Well thats because woman suck at math.

Spoken like a true caveman!

BigHairedAristocrat · 03-13-2012, 03:03 PM

If, at some point (after we've already taken the 18MM hit), its determined through some sort of arbitration that the penalties were inappropriate, then i dont think giving us back extra caps space in later years would cut it. Id demaind a compensatory 1st round draft pick.

steveo395 · 03-13-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

If, at some point (after we've already taken the 18MM hit), its determined through some sort of arbitration that the penalties were inappropriate, then i dont think giving us back extra caps space in later years would cut it. Id demaind a compensatory 1st round draft pick.

Well then we can just front load all of our contracts into that year and just start the cycle all over again.

03-13-2012, 02:54 PM	#607
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 31 Posts: 5,394	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space I haven't gone through all the pages on this thread, but didn't the bears pay Peppers like 35 million that year? How is that any different. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

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donofriose Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 719	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space What is the point of having a salary cap if the NFL is just going to have a little meeting and fine you if they think you spent too much at one time. O well nothing is going to be done the NFL basically payed off the players association which I think is interesting.

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BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,813	Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space If, at some point (after we've already taken the 18MM hit), its determined through some sort of arbitration that the penalties were inappropriate, then i dont think giving us back extra caps space in later years would cut it. Id demaind a compensatory 1st round draft pick. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

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