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Old 03-14-2012, 11:10 AM   #631
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So I wonder what the outcome was or will be in regards to the Skins conversation with the League....

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I love the last paragraph. So the League of owners agreed to collude which is against National Labor Laws and two owners refused to break the law and now they are getting punished for not breaking the law.

This has got to get the ACLU or other Unions or whoever over sees National Labor Laws attention. Maybe one phone call or a couple of phone calls and guarenteed the League folds on this issue for fear they will be investigated in regards to collusion.
Nice info but nothing is said of the outcome...if the league admitted that the Redskins and Cowgirls committed no violation, does it mean we get to keep our 36 mil?
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:13 AM   #632
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obviously it was the skins who leaked this to the media. I imagine if there was a favorable outcome, they would have leaked that as well. Given there's no mention of any reversals, and the only thing leaked was that the NFL admitted the skins did nothing wrong, i would imagine we're still being assessed the 36MM.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:14 AM   #633
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Nice info but nothing is said of the outcome...if the league admitted that the Redskins and Cowgirls committed no violation, does it mean we get to keep our 36 mil?
I doubt it but I was wondering the same thing. Is this maybe how we are able to spend so much right now? Maybe Goodell said he'd give the team its money back and let the Skins voice their complaint to the Execs next month or to the rest of the owners next month and push the punishment to next yr and beyond.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:18 AM   #634
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Any updates on this? CSN Washington was still reporting the cap loss last evening.

It seems like we're ignoring it but since we didn't even make an offer to Jackson or any CBs, I'm not sure if it's affecting our moves or not. I love the WR pickups we've made though.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:21 AM   #635
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obviously it was the skins who leaked this to the media. I imagine if there was a favorable outcome, they would have leaked that as well. Given there's no mention of any reversals, and the only thing leaked was that the NFL admitted the skins did nothing wrong, i would imagine we're still being assessed the 36MM.
I'm still baffled as to how they can say there was no rule or law broken, but we want to punish you because other owners who spend their money elsewhere instead of on their teams didn't get a chance to do what you did. So we are going to give your gained CAP money to some less fortunate team. "F" them. If their city does not want to support them in purchasing tickets then move the F-ing team to a more lucrative city who does want a team. I'll admit I was mad when the Colts just up and moved. I felt sorry for the Browns when the team left for Baltimore. But no different then any other business if it's not making money you either move or fold. Their already getting a portion of our gross income % wise to help them monitarily do exactly what the Skins did and they chose not to do it. now they want more? WTF.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:26 PM   #636
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Any updates on this? CSN Washington was still reporting the cap loss last evening.

It seems like we're ignoring it but since we didn't even make an offer to Jackson or any CBs, I'm not sure if it's affecting our moves or not. I love the WR pickups we've made though.
Since this is essentially a cat fight among owners, my guess is that we won't have any real updates on the issue until after the owners' meeting at the end of the month.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:37 PM   #637
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I read that PFT article about us having no violations but we were at an 'uncompetitive advantage'. That tells me that what we did was legal but frowned upon. So they didn't say (or at least from what we've heard from the skins perspective) we have a violation or salary cap reduction so I would keep spending. Also how can the bucs afford these guys? How are they not at an 'uncompetitive advantage'?
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:44 PM   #638
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As a season ticket holder, I think that my tickets have been devalued and that all ticket holders and even fans should bring a class action siut against the NFL and the players association for not standing up for what is right.
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I read that PFT article about us having no violations but we were at an 'uncompetitive advantage'. That tells me that what we did was legal but frowned upon. So they didn't say (or at least from what we've heard from the skins perspective) we have a violation or salary cap reduction so I would keep spending. Also how can the bucs afford these guys? How are they not at an 'uncompetitive advantage'?
They can afford players because they like a lot of teams never spend up to the salary ceiling. In fact I believe they were one of several teams that similarly affected competitive balance in 2010 by NOT spending to the previous spending floor.
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I read that PFT article about us having no violations but we were at an 'uncompetitive advantage'. That tells me that what we did was legal but frowned upon. So they didn't say (or at least from what we've heard from the skins perspective) we have a violation or salary cap reduction so I would keep spending. Also how can the bucs afford these guys? How are they not at an 'uncompetitive advantage'?
It sounds like from Maske's article in today's Wash Post that there was a sort of gentlemen's agreement not to go overboard with player spending in the uncapped year and the Skins & Cowboys, and to a lesser extent Oak & NO, ignored the agreement. It seems like the Skins really went over the top. I'm not at all surprised those who feel they got F'd over would be upset. Who wouldnt be upset to have someone screw you after you made an agreement? It also sounds like the owners wanted the Skins to lose draft picks but the NFL said no. All in all, it could have been a lot worse.

It seems the NFL feels that the Skins didnt get an advantage in the uncapped year but put themself in a position to gain an advantage when the cap resumed.
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I can see both sides, the Skins technically didn't violate any rules, but they did go overboard in dumping $$ into the uncapped year and basically gave the rest of the league the finger on what was supposed to be an unwritten understanding.

Still, not sure I agree with the severity of the punishment though. All around a lose/lose for the league if you ask me. I'm normally not the type to rag on Goodell, but I think he made a bad call here.
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:15 PM   #642
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ti can see both sides of it too -

the league is upset that a couple teams broke lines and behaved ethically and so now theyre being vindictive.

they skins and cowboys gave the rest of the league the finger for illegally colluding to screw the players.
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I'm sure the Skins were concerned about the ethics of collusion for their reasoning to dump salary. lol
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I can see both sides, the Skins technically didn't violate any rules, but they did go overboard in dumping $$ into the uncapped year and basically gave the rest of the league the finger on what was supposed to be an unwritten understanding.

Still, not sure I agree with the severity of the punishment though. All around a lose/lose for the league if you ask me. I'm normally not the type to rag on Goodell, but I think he made a bad call here.
I think the rest of the league would agree with you because they think RG let the Skins off too easy. It boggles my mind how anyone with the Skins could have thought they'd get away with going so overboard.
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I'm sure the Skins were concerned about the ethics of collusion for their reasoning to dump salary. lol
lol very true.
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