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Old 03-15-2012, 02:24 PM   #721
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So, you and your friends agree to do a job for another group. After the other group leaves, your friends secretly agree to try and cheat on the agreement. Even though you know it's wrong, and may even be illegal, because the "the group reache[d] consensus and you are in the group that's what you have to do"? Sorry, illegal agreements cannot be enforced.
Agreed. Majority does not equal morality.

However, if the Redskins were part of the consensus and gave their word on a shady deal, then I don't really have a problem with them facing the shady consequences of that deal.
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:54 PM   #722
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He probably can't. Not just b/c of the speculative nature of the damages (He would pretty much need a statement from the Skins saying "We would have offered you X, but due to salary cap restrictions resulting solely from the NFL's sanction, we can only offer you Y". Pretty sure that is not forthcoming).

As a member of the NFLPA, the NFLPA's agreement to the salary cap arrangements would, most likely, cut off his legal remedy.

Clearly he, and other potential Redskins are likely harmed, BUT the players organization agree to allow the harm to happen.
Right--I noted somewhere else that he probably doesn't have standing, given the NFLPA. But I'd damn sure want my dues back if I'm London! Sure, the NFLPA can say that the same amount of cash is out there, so London can go get it. But as someone who's captain of a team's D, he has more value to that team. And we all know that the the skins would spend the money, while it ain't going nowhere in Indy, Jax, etc.

London Fletcher just seems to be one of those good guys who gets ****ed with all the time. But I'm sure he'll be OK--let's pay the man!
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:59 PM   #723
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Also, for the fans this cap reduction news came out of the blue, but it didnt for the Skins. They were continually warned by the NFL to cool it yet for some reason they ignored the warnings. The sad part is that the Skins could have avoided this mess if they'd have just heeded the warnings and backed off a little. The NFL tried to save the Skins from themselves but the Skins were too arrogant to listen.
Word is that these "warnings" never actually came from the NFL and never in writing and you don't heed warnings when you aren't doing anything wrong...
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:05 PM   #724
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I'm not at all surprised the NFLPA agreed. While the players may or may not have made less in the uncapped year (I suspect they didnt make less) that was only one year. The NFLPA agreed to the deal so that their players could make more every year after that because part of the deal was keeping the cap from going down. The NFLPA too the long term view of keeping salaries up for their members.

Also, for the fans this cap reduction news came out of the blue, but it didnt for the Skins. They were continually warned by the NFL to cool it yet for some reason they ignored the warnings. The sad part is that the Skins could have avoided this mess if they'd have just heeded the warnings and backed off a little. The NFL tried to save the Skins from themselves but the Skins were too arrogant to listen.
How can the NFL warn the Redskins, approve the contracts the Redskins sent them, and then reprimand them? The NFL league office approved the contracts! How do you back off a little? How is the Redskins organization arrogant?
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:29 PM   #725
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Pansies!!!

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Old 03-15-2012, 04:36 PM   #726
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Not sure I quite get that strategy. /shrug
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:38 PM   #727
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Not sure I quite get that strategy. /shrug
It's called the "get reamed now, call in favors later" strategy.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:00 PM   #728
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for whats its worth, we dont have an owner thats just going to stand idly by and do nothing. So if theres a case to be made, or a lawsuit to file, itll be done. If nothing is done then you gotta assume he knew and was ok (accepted) it, regardless of the statement that bruce allen made.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:44 PM   #729
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I made a mafia reference a few posts back--I really don't expect a lawsuit. That's like breaking the code of silence or something. Only Al "the Rat" Davis ever tried it.

Danny (and Jerry, no doubt) will get theirs however and whenever they can, for the rest of their business lives, I'd guess. Wonder how that next owner's meeting is gonna go?
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Again, if I'm London Fletcher, I sue. They took money right out of his pocket.

LOL...Bad enough you have Giant envy and want to blame the "owners" of the other teams for all your problems ,now you tell London Fletcher to sue ,why,it's the teams choice to not pay him no other team or "owner" made that call just the Redskins.Money did'nt stop them from going after anyone else .Your buddy Graziano is just mad becuase the players threw him out of the Giants locker room.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:55 PM   #731
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LOL...Bad enough you have Giant envy and want to blame the "owners" of the other teams for all your problems ,now you tell London Fletcher to sue ,why,it's the teams choice to not pay him no other team or "owner" made that call just the Redskins.Money did'nt stop them from going after anyone else .Your buddy Graziano is just mad becuase the players threw him out of the Giants locker room.
Why did the players throw Graziano out of the locker room? Did he catch them faking again?
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Not sure I quite get that strategy. /shrug
A few years ago I got into a...fracas with the local Fire Marshall in Bonita Springs regarding my business. Basically he was railroading me (with all kinds of threats for non-compliance) into buying about $20k worth of equipment that served no real purpose and had NO use.
BUT, if the truth were known, he was getting a little $$$ from the manufacturers for his trouble.
I could easily have proved these things in court and my Mouthpiece agreed 100%.
BUT he told me.....DO you REALLY want to deal with all the probs that, that dept can cause you for as long as you own that business? He'll cause you 10 times that amount.
TOUGH pill to swallow...but I bought the stuff......
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:19 PM   #733
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Why did the players throw Graziano out of the locker room? Did he catch them faking again?

LOL...from what I was told ...yes that was the game .Very good!!!
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:20 PM   #734
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I'm not sure how far this will go or if it would even help but I saw it at another site and thought I'd share it here. Would like to think it will get to whom they say it is supposed to go.

Petition: The NFL, NFLPA and Roger Goodell: Reverse the cap penalty on the Cowboys and Redskins | Change.org
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:41 PM   #735
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It's called the "get reamed now, call in favors later" strategy.
For sure, we will probably do the same, I hope we don't though.
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