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Old 03-12-2012, 04:52 PM   #121
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A few restructures here and there, and we're probably right back in the ballpark of where we were.
id prefer not to restructure and just take our lumps now. restructuring to get under the cap is what got us into perpetual cap hell before.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:53 PM   #122
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where's randy thomas when you need him?
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:53 PM   #123
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It sounds to me like the owners strong-armed the union into agreeing to the penalties against WAS/DAL. Wild stuff.
what!! that is ****ing collusion!! then that is mos def not right
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:54 PM   #124
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The penalty seems wildly excessive given that:

1) there were no well-defined rules or specified penalties, just a vague "agreement"

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2) Hall and AH might have gotten some bonus money, anyway.

The NFL should at least reduce the penalty.
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as ashamed as i am, i actually sent florio and e-mail and raised this issue. no one else in the media seems to be raising it yet, and id love to have it addressed. without a CBA in place, the teams had not right to collude in this manner.
Haha, dont be ashamed, ive emailed Floria before too...... no response.

I bet he will chime in on this though with his background. I can see one of his thorough and over analytical legal opinions on this.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:55 PM   #126
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I'd still lawyer up for reduced penalties. the haynesworth dump was flagrant, i don't remember the hall bonus...
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:56 PM   #127
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And what's weird is that several teams are reported to have done this, but only Dallas and Redskins are getting punished.

Ah well...
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:56 PM   #128
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The penalty seems wildly excessive given that:

1) there were no well-defined rules or specified penalties, just a vague "agreement"

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2) Hall and AH might have gotten some bonus money, anyway.

The NFL should at least reduce the penalty.
i agree, but i would find it highly unlikely. looks like the league and union agreed to the numbers over the weekend, so i would imagine its a done deal.

at what point do we have to decide what penalty we want in 2012?
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:57 PM   #129
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Haha, dont be ashamed, ive emailed Floria before too...... no response.

I bet he will chime in on this though with his background. I can see one of his thorough and over analytical legal opinions on this.
he's always replied to me, but its been a couple years. i imagine he's got cultbrennan syndrome and thinks hes too important now.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:58 PM   #130
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Q&A on the Cowboys-Redskins cap mess - NFC East Blog - ESPN
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:02 PM   #131
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With cuts and restructures still left to come, it isn't the end of the world. The skins are still going to pick up a few quality signings and a stud WR.
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:03 PM   #132
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And what's weird is that several teams are reported to have done this, but only Dallas and Redskins are getting punished.

Ah well...
Well, at least it is fair and not arbitrary.
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This smells like the Chris Paul trade veto all over again. A few cry-baby owners screwing things up. Ugh.
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:04 PM   #134
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Q: Why isn't the union challenging this?

A: While this behavior seems to fit the very dictionary definition of collusion, as multiple teams were engaged in discussions to limit the earning potential of their employees and prospective employees, do not expect it to be challenged in court. The decision today, in which the Redskins were docked $36 million in cap space and the Cowboys $10 million, is the result of a settlement between the NFL and the NFLPA. One reason the union has no problem with it is that the money lost to the Cowboys and Redskins is not taken out of the overall 2012 spending pool each of 28 other teams gets $1.6 million extra in cap room, so there's no net loss league-wide. Another reason the union won't push on it is because they agreed, as part of the settlement of last year's Brady vs. NFL federal lawsuit, to drop all pending legal action against the league. That included their claims that the league engaged in collusion in 2010.
This whole thing disgusts me. Would not surprise me one bit if the most vocal of the teams demanding punishment were teams targeting VJ and wanted to limit the skins as competitors.
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"The Cowboys and the Redskins, to a greater extent than the league's other 30 teams, ignored these warnings and engaged in such behavior anyway."

Is the NFL kidding?
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