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Old 03-12-2012, 04:49 PM   #121
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Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
Is this really a penalty or is it cap space we wouldn't have had if we did not restructure or dump these contracts.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:49 PM   #122
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right, not great. just good

A few restructures here and there, and we're probably right back in the ballpark of where we were.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:50 PM   #123
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IMHO, this is simply wrong and probably a violation of the labor laws governing collective bargining.
Glad a lawyer (you are a lawyer right?) agreed on this. It HAS to be collusion. It is almost textbook from my half-assed understanding of it.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:52 PM   #124
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A few restructures here and there, and we're probably right back in the ballpark of where we were.
cooley better take one for the team
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:52 PM   #125
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A few restructures here and there, and we're probably right back in the ballpark of where we were.
id prefer not to restructure and just take our lumps now. restructuring to get under the cap is what got us into perpetual cap hell before.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:53 PM   #126
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where's randy thomas when you need him?
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:53 PM   #127
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It sounds to me like the owners strong-armed the union into agreeing to the penalties against WAS/DAL. Wild stuff.
what!! that is ****ing collusion!! then that is mos def not right
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:54 PM   #128
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The penalty seems wildly excessive given that:

1) there were no well-defined rules or specified penalties, just a vague "agreement"

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2) Hall and AH might have gotten some bonus money, anyway.

The NFL should at least reduce the penalty.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:55 PM   #129
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as ashamed as i am, i actually sent florio and e-mail and raised this issue. no one else in the media seems to be raising it yet, and id love to have it addressed. without a CBA in place, the teams had not right to collude in this manner.
Haha, dont be ashamed, ive emailed Floria before too...... no response.

I bet he will chime in on this though with his background. I can see one of his thorough and over analytical legal opinions on this.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:55 PM   #130
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I'd still lawyer up for reduced penalties. the haynesworth dump was flagrant, i don't remember the hall bonus...
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:56 PM   #131
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And what's weird is that several teams are reported to have done this, but only Dallas and Redskins are getting punished.

Ah well...
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:56 PM   #132
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The penalty seems wildly excessive given that:

1) there were no well-defined rules or specified penalties, just a vague "agreement"

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2) Hall and AH might have gotten some bonus money, anyway.

The NFL should at least reduce the penalty.
i agree, but i would find it highly unlikely. looks like the league and union agreed to the numbers over the weekend, so i would imagine its a done deal.

at what point do we have to decide what penalty we want in 2012?
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Haha, dont be ashamed, ive emailed Floria before too...... no response.

I bet he will chime in on this though with his background. I can see one of his thorough and over analytical legal opinions on this.
he's always replied to me, but its been a couple years. i imagine he's got cultbrennan syndrome and thinks hes too important now.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:58 PM   #134
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Q&A on the Cowboys-Redskins cap mess - NFC East Blog - ESPN
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:02 PM   #135
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With cuts and restructures still left to come, it isn't the end of the world. The skins are still going to pick up a few quality signings and a stud WR.
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