Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room > Salary Cap Central


2014 salary cap....and the money we have

Salary Cap Central


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-29-2014, 03:55 AM   #91
Impact Rookie
 
Skins4L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NJ
Posts: 682
Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have

Yea lets ink orak & hall back. Then at least 4 new faces in dc i think grudens got this...
__________________
ALL HAIL
Skins4L is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 01-29-2014, 12:22 PM   #92
Camp Scrub
 
SkinsFanOttawa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
Posts: 17
Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneed10 View Post
CC your sheets make things so easy to analyze. I saw OvertheCap's stuff and the numbers looked good, but honestly it's too hard to deal with. Yours are the most well-laid out on the web.

After a first-cut analysis, I think these are the obvious moves you can expect to see:

- The team is likely to approach Trent Williams about an extension to bring his $11M cap hit down in 2014. They could restructure his $7.25M base salary into a signing bonus, plus add additional guarantees to lock him in for a long time while bringing down the cap number.

- The team will take a hard line with Josh Morgan. Accept a pay cut or begone. The team has all the leverage with him.

- While I'm not as sure as I am with Trent, I think they'd approach Kerrigan (if not this spring then sometime in the summer) to extend him.

- Polumbus is a goner.

- They will have a tough call on Carriker, cutting him would free some space. But not oodles. They can afford to keep him no doubt. I'll bet Haslett goes to bat for him and they give him another shot. If he can't make it back he'll be a camp casualty.
Great post Schneed I agree with a lot of what you're suggesting. I think Polumbus should be released as well especially after the escalator of $500K to his contract last week. He would free up $1.5M in cap space right there.

I think they should just let Morgan walk and swallow the dead money. As someone mentioned above his contract is outrageous. What were they thinking giving him that kind of $?

I think they should hang on to Cofield another year at least but I wouldn't mind seeing them cut loose Carriker, Chester, Bowen and Rocca. That would be over $9.1M of savings right there. Enough to use towards Orakpo's contract. If they cut loose Meriweather there's another $2.2M in savings.

Also I'm wondering what you guys think about possibly cutting loose Roy Helu Jr? I like the guy and think he's a formidable change of pace back. But, like Polumbus he also got an escalator, roughly $700K actually. That brings his contract to $1.5M with only $100K of dead money for a possible savings of $1.4M. That make him making 2.5 times more than Morris who is the starter. If they let him go, they can develop Chris Thompson into the 3rd down back or go for someone in the draft or FA. What do you think?
__________________
"Sometimes it's not what you get for your team, it's what you're willing to give for them" - Robert Griffin III
SkinsFanOttawa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 12:34 PM   #93
RG Glee
 
Schneed10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newtown Square, PA
Age: 34
Posts: 8,279
Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have

Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinsFanOttawa View Post
Great post Schneed I agree with a lot of what you're suggesting. I think Polumbus should be released as well especially after the escalator of $500K to his contract last week. He would free up $1.5M in cap space right there.

I think they should just let Morgan walk and swallow the dead money. As someone mentioned above his contract is outrageous. What were they thinking giving him that kind of $?

I think they should hang on to Cofield another year at least but I wouldn't mind seeing them cut loose Carriker, Chester, Bowen and Rocca. That would be over $9.1M of savings right there. Enough to use towards Orakpo's contract. If they cut loose Meriweather there's another $2.2M in savings.

Also I'm wondering what you guys think about possibly cutting loose Roy Helu Jr? I like the guy and think he's a formidable change of pace back. But, like Polumbus he also got an escalator, roughly $700K actually. That brings his contract to $1.5M with only $100K of dead money for a possible savings of $1.4M. That make him making 2.5 times more than Morris who is the starter. If they let him go, they can develop Chris Thompson into the 3rd down back or go for someone in the draft or FA. What do you think?
One of the key things I like to keep in mind this time of year is replacement value. When considering cutting a player you have to look at what you think you can get to replace the guy and at what cost. Helu has some value, he is an able pass protector, understands hot routes, and is a reliable receiver. He makes a good 3rd down back. If there is someone in free agency who you could sign for cheaper than a $1.5M cap hit, who would do a better job, then you do it. If not, you keep him. I don't like our chances of finding a better 3rd down back for less than $1.5M.

You can always draft someone and see if they can push Helu out of his spot in camp, at which time you could cut Helu and realize the savings then. But I don't think we're in any position to give away depth. I'd keep him and I think they will.
Schneed10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 12:59 PM   #94
Impact Rookie
 
DCtoAZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Age: 33
Posts: 623
Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have

Helu for 1.5 million .. come on people that's chump change and he's proven to be solid especially as a 3rd down back .. silly to think about getting rid of him
DCtoAZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 01:04 PM   #95
RG Glee
 
Schneed10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newtown Square, PA
Age: 34
Posts: 8,279
Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have

As is natural, we tend to look at CC's cap sheets and scan for the opportunities for savings. So naturally we look at the bigger contracts first and then go down the list.

Helu is fairly high on the list for cap savings opportunities, even at only $1.5 million. But that speaks to the favorable cap position we find ourselves in much less than it does about whether Helu is worth the money.

We should be in add mode, not cut & replace mode. I expect we will be releasing very few players this offseason.
Schneed10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 01:06 PM   #96
Camp Scrub
 
SkinsFanOttawa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
Posts: 17
Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have

Quote:
Originally Posted by DCtoAZ View Post
Helu for 1.5 million .. come on people that's chump change and he's proven to be solid especially as a 3rd down back .. silly to think about getting rid of him
I was just throwing it out there, don't necessarily think it's the best thing to do. All I was trying to get at is if Thompson can fill his shoes as the 3rd down scat back then it's a savings of over a mill. I thought we were here to discuss such possibilities or else what is the point of this thread?
__________________
"Sometimes it's not what you get for your team, it's what you're willing to give for them" - Robert Griffin III
SkinsFanOttawa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 02:44 PM   #97
F the Shannys

 
CrazyCanuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,876
Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneed10 View Post
CC your sheets make things so easy to analyze. I saw OvertheCap's stuff and the numbers looked good, but honestly it's too hard to deal with. Yours are the most well-laid out on the web.
Thanks Schneed. Matty deserves a lot of credit for getting the sheets to come out so nice on the web.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneed10 View Post
The team is likely to approach Trent Williams about an extension to bring his $11M cap hit down in 2014. They could restructure his $7.25M base salary into a signing bonus, plus add additional guarantees to lock him in for a long time while bringing down the cap number.
I thought of this as well. I think next year it's a no-brainer, not sure about this year. We already have too much cap space this year. Orakpo's rated 3rd amongst free agents so where are we gonna spend $30M? So it's not an emergency for TW to restructure. That being said, I don't like the idea of TW playing out a contract year in 2015. So I'd like to sign him long-term as well, just not sure how much cap space we need to save this year.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneed10 View Post
The team will take a hard line with Josh Morgan. Accept a pay cut or begone. The team has all the leverage with him.
They don't need to take a hard line because there's 0% chance Morgan comes back on that contract. So basically he's a free agent already and should be viewed as such.
CrazyCanuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 02:54 PM   #98
RG Glee
 
Schneed10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newtown Square, PA
Age: 34
Posts: 8,279
Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have

Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck View Post
They don't need to take a hard line because there's 0% chance Morgan comes back on that contract. So basically he's a free agent already and should be viewed as such.
Is there a void clause with him?
Schneed10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 02:59 PM   #99
Franchise Player
 
skinsfan69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington, VA.
Posts: 9,368
Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have

[QUOTE=SkinsFanOttawa;1057804]Great post Schneed I agree with a lot of what you're suggesting. I think Polumbus should be released as well especially after the escalator of $500K to his contract last week. He would free up $1.5M in cap space right there.

I think they should just let Morgan walk and swallow the dead money. As someone mentioned above his contract is outrageous. What were they thinking giving him that kind of $?

I think they should hang on to Cofield another year at least but I wouldn't mind seeing them cut loose Carriker, Chester, Bowen and Rocca. That would be over $9.1M of savings right there. Enough to use towards Orakpo's contract. If they cut loose Meriweather there's another $2.2M in savings.

Also I'm wondering what you guys think about possibly cutting loose Roy Helu Jr? I like the guy and think he's a formidable change of pace back. But, like Polumbus he also got an escalator, roughly $700K actually. That brings his contract to $1.5M with only $100K of dead money for a possible savings of $1.4M. That make him making 2.5 times more than Morris who is the starter. If they let him go, they can develop Chris Thompson into the 3rd down back or go for someone in the draft or FA. What do you think?[/QUOTE]

Terrible idea. Helu is a good football player and proven. This is how you build a good team. Have good depth. What if Morris turns a knee and is out for 8 weeks? Then you have Thompson as your RB. No thanks. We've got two guys in Morris and Helu who can carry the rock.
skinsfan69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 03:51 PM   #100
F the Shannys

 
CrazyCanuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,876
Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneed10 View Post
Is there a void clause with him?
Ya looks like team void option after 2013.
CrazyCanuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 04:12 PM   #101
Playmaker
 
los panda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: los angeles, ca
Age: 29
Posts: 4,051
Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have

Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck View Post
I thought of this as well. I think next year it's a no-brainer, not sure about this year. We already have too much cap space this year. Orakpo's rated 3rd amongst free agents so where are we gonna spend $30M? So it's not an emergency for TW to restructure. That being said, I don't like the idea of TW playing out a contract year in 2015. So I'd like to sign him long-term as well, just not sure how much cap space we need to save this year.
they can restructure/sign him long term right now, and leave his 2014 numbers alone, right? hell, maybe even move more of his contract into 2014 - if there's a surplus of cap space.

but we had better be careful, if we best utilize the salary cap, we may be accused of violating the spirit of the salary cap.
__________________
7 9 21 28 33 42 43 44 49 65 70 81
los panda is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.26807 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25