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1) Yes they are, ..the Pep Boys from this forum and the NRA among others want NO new laws at all.
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We already have enough laws on the books, ENFORCE THEM FIRST!
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2)wow, in this situation I will disagree with you.
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That's the best you have?
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3) Saving the life of one child never gets old you want to regulate guns like we do cars and drivers or even pools hell yes fine with me. News Flash ....bubble wrap is protection
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It also stagnates any kind of progress.
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4) Nope that's the old sky is falling defense ..the 'Second Amendment "scare the public that the government will kick open their doors and take their guns is BS and anyone that preaches it knows it's a lie. Do the back ground check if the gun buyer is clean he gets his gun, simple.
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As we have evidence that it's the natural progression of these things why should people be ok with it?
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5) Turn around, nope just answering your question. I want the laws and they will help ...will it stop everything no,...see #4
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It won't make a difference as the current laws, when violated, are rarely prosecuted.
Here:
2010:
72,659 denials
34,459 felony convictions/indictments
13,862 fugitives
44 prosecutions (0.06 percent of denials)
2009:
67,324 denials
32,652 felony convictions/indictments
11,341 fugitives
77 prosecutions (0.11 percent)
2008:
70,725 denials
39,526 felony convictions/indictments
9,464 fugitives
105 prosecutions (0.15 percent)
2007:
73,992 denials
23,703 felony convictions/indictments
4,803 fugitives
122 prosecutions (0.16 percent)
2006:
69,930 denials
25,259 felony convictions/indictments
4,235 fugitives
112 prosecutions (0.16 percent)
2005:
66,705 denials
36.8 percent felony convictions/indictments
5.3 percent fugitives
135 prosecutions (0.20 percent)
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6) Bet you if I ask any one parent from Newtown .....they would side with me in saying you're the one wrong. So to answer you if it stops one death and the people still get to shoot and use guns that want to, then yes enact the laws.
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Ask Mark Mattioli. You lose your bet, but you're in the business of rhetoric not facts so it's hardly surprising.
CR, while I appreciate your approach on the subject I also reject your summation at the end , I think they are all great starting points. I'm still waiting to hear one good argument
in sacrificing children for the sake of no new gun laws or background checks?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, because that's what pro gun rights people are saying, you ****ing weasel.
