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Old 09-16-2013, 08:57 PM   #257
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Re: Pro-gun article

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Originally Posted by Giantone View Post
(snip awesome news of two politicians being recalled over gun control laws)
Thanks, giantone. This matter about two politicians being recalled for pushing gun control laws, is good news.

The spin on your link is hilarious. Your link said overwhelming majorities were for the gun laws, yet the poll cited says "All voters oppose 54 - 40 percent the stricter new gun control laws which led to the recall effort". And the poll cited said a vast majority was against the recall itself, yet the recall happened and the two anti-gun politicians that pushed the supposedly popular legislation through were recalled.

Colorado (CO) Poll - August 22, 2013 - Colorado Voters Oppose Recall | Quinnipiac University Connecticut

The poll your link cites is baffling itself, again it says "All voters oppose 54 - 40 percent the stricter new gun control laws which led to the recall effort". Yet it cites overwhelming support for one provision (universal background checks), slight margin of support for magazine limits. The poll doesn't say about the $10 fee for background checks. Is the poll hinting that the $10 was the breaking point, to Colorado voters? It does say that most Colorado voters didn't think the new laws would make things safer, which makes the above poll info more puzzling.

This link here:

The Colorado Recalls Explained | The Volokh ConspiracyThe Volokh Conspiracy

which mentions some things your mediamatters link doesn't: like how Bloomberg and anti-gun rights groups outspent their counterparts $3mil to $.5mil. And how one recall was close but the other wasn't.

"It’s one thing for a deliberately polarizing legislator like Morse to lose a close race in a swing district. It’s quite another for Giron to lose by 12 points in a district that is 47% Democratic and 23% Republican. One reason is that in blue collar districts like Pueblo, there are plenty of Democrats who cling to their Second Amendment rights. As the Denver Post noted, 20% of the voters who signed the Giron recall petitions were Democrats.

The Colorado Senate is now 18-17 Democratic, and 19-16 pro-Second Amendment. On gun issues, and on many others, the balance of power is now held by moderate Democrats, rather than by the hard left faction formerly led by Morse."

The volokh link actually proposes that what really doomed the two recalled state senators, isn't the gun control laws. It was that they rammed the law through rather than going through normal procedure of public hearings. Which make the "popular legislation" claim your link makes even more dubious.

Still good news about the recall, so thanks giantone. lol. But I guess the question now is, will any of the new gun control laws be repealed after the next general election, or not?
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